Weapon modability

[Blackened]

To which degree can be weapons modded? I know that it's already possible to change the damage, AP cost, minimum str, hands required, ammo type and capacity (for all weapons using ammo), burst rounds (for weapons with a burst option), range (for ranged weapons), and change the perk on the weapon with an existing one.

But is it possible to:
• Add range to weapons with melee range (1 or 2);
• Change the damage type (like melee weapons with fire damage type);
• Add burst mode (even to a Ripper?);
• Change damage type to a mixed one (a weapon deals 100 damage, 30 of it is affected by Normal resistance/threshold, 60 of it by Laser, and 10 of it - by EMP);
• Have a weapon with two or more perks (I posted this mostly because I'm nearly certain it's impossible);
• Add a new weapon perk (if yes - what can a perk do?);
• Change the critical hit tables (this has a great number of applications, like an anti-deathclaw weapon);
• Add new attack types (say, single shot for a minigun);
• Inflict different damage for different attack types (like a knife with 1-6 dmg with thrust and 2-7 with swing);
• Make the character (or his target) occasionally say something when he uses the weapon;
• Have a 0 AP requirement;
• Do 0 dmg every attack;
• Use different formula for melee damage (like a ranged weapon that uses melee damage, or a melee weapon that has double bonus from melee damage);
• Remove the possibility to use aimed hit (possibly by making the only attack type a 1-round burst, though this won't work for most weapons);
• Have different damage against a certain type of enemies;
• Reduce enemy (or own) stats on attack;
• Use different death animations (or use the violent ones more/less often);
• Have aimed burst;
• Have the Rocket Launcher or Flamer type of attack (the flamer type of attack can be good for a shotgun);
• Always do full damage (without being reduced);
• Use different formula for burst (for example, one in that distance has effect only on accuracy if the player has a certain amount of that weapon skill);
• Add AC or any type of resistance/threshold when worn;
• Increase own chance of critical miss;
• Option for melee attack for a ranged weapon (proven that someone provides the animation).

I need to know which of these is certainly possible, which is possible to be possible and requires some coding, and which is definitely impossible. Also anything that I forgot to think of and is possible to do.

 

[Recon Rover Rick]

I know for certain two of these at least. The spear has a range of 2 for its non-throwing attacks. As well as that, you can certainly add new attack types to any weapon, a single shot minigun is certainly possible. I'd say it's probable you can do 0 damage on attacks each time as well, just change the damage to 0; also probable that you can give a ranged weapon a melee attack, though I'm decidedly uncertain about that truth told.

 

[Nirran]

To which degree can be weapons modded? I know that it's already possible to change the damage, AP cost, minimum str, hands required, ammo type and capacity (for all weapons using ammo), burst rounds (for weapons with a burst option), range (for ranged weapons), and change the perk on the weapon with an existing one.

But is it possible to:
• Add range to weapons with melee range (1 or 2);
• Change the damage type (like melee weapons with fire damage type);
• Add burst mode (even to a Ripper?);
• Change damage type to a mixed one (a weapon deals 100 damage, 30 of it is affected by Normal resistance/threshold, 60 of it by Laser, and 10 of it - by EMP);
• Have a weapon with two or more perks (I posted this mostly because I'm nearly certain it's impossible);
• Add a new weapon perk (if yes - what can a perk do?);
• Change the critical hit tables (this has a great number of applications, like an anti-deathclaw weapon);
• Add new attack types (say, single shot for a minigun);
• Inflict different damage for different attack types (like a knife with 1-6 dmg with thrust and 2-7 with swing);
• Make the character (or his target) occasionally say something when he uses the weapon;
• Have a 0 AP requirement;
• Do 0 dmg every attack;
• Use different formula for melee damage (like a ranged weapon that uses melee damage, or a melee weapon that has double bonus from melee damage);
• Remove the possibility to use aimed hit (possibly by making the only attack type a 1-round burst, though this won't work for most weapons);
• Have different damage against a certain type of enemies;
• Reduce enemy (or own) stats on attack;
• Use different death animations (or use the violent ones more/less often);
• Have aimed burst;
• Have the Rocket Launcher or Flamer type of attack (the flamer type of attack can be good for a shotgun);
• Always do full damage (without being reduced);
• Use different formula for burst (for example, one in that distance has effect only on accuracy if the player has a certain amount of that weapon skill);
• Add AC or any type of resistance/threshold when worn;
• Increase own chance of critical miss;
• Option for melee attack for a ranged weapon (proven that someone provides the animation).

I need to know which of these is certainly possible, which is possible to be possible and requires some coding, and which is definitely impossible. Also anything that I forgot to think of and is possible to do.

most of those things can be done with a damage formula hook script(using sfall) though it wont be easy and it would require hours of coding

• Add range to weapons with melee range (1 or 2);

yes,no coding

• Change the damage type (like melee weapons with fire damage type);

yes,no coding

• Add burst mode (even to a Ripper?);

iv tried it,and it wont work with simply editing the proto,cause the engine looks for attack type,if it is burst it uses the burst amount,it can be coded with a hook script

• Change damage type to a mixed one (a weapon deals 100 damage, 30 of it is affected by Normal resistance/threshold, 60 of it by Laser, and 10 of it - by EMP);[b]

again with hook script(maybe on this one,not sure,don't know if you can set the damage type,never tried)

• Have a weapon with two or more perks (I posted this mostly because i am nearly certain it's impossible)

don't think so

• Add a new weapon perk (if yes - what can a perk do?);

maybe,with custom perks,and hook scripts

• Change the [URL=http://falloutmods.wikia.com;/wiki/Critical_hit_tables]critical hit tables[/URL] (this has a great number of applications, like an anti-deathclaw weapon);[/b]

sfall has function to get and set the critical table,tho i was unable to figure out what to do with them,id say doable,but i don't know the specifics(yet)

• Add new attack types (say, single shot for a minigun);[b]

yes,no coding

• Inflict different damage for different attack types (like a knife with 1-6 dmg with thrust and 2-7 with swing);[/b]

yes,with hook script

• Make the character (or his target) occasionally say something when he uses the weapon;

yes,with a hook script

• Have a 0 AP requirement;

yes,no coding

• Do 0 dmg [u]every[/u] attack;

yes,no coding

• Use different formula for melee damage (like a ranged weapon that uses melee damage, or a melee weapon that has double bonus from melee damage);

yes,with hook script

• Remove the possibility to use aimed hit (possibly by making the only attack type a 1-round burst, though this won't work for most weapons);

only with a vanilla perk as far i know,unsure if sfall would allow that,tho you can definitely code to stop it from using the numbers from an aimed shot,it would still bring up the aimed shot menu

• Have different damage against a certain type of enemies;

yes,with hook script

• Reduce enemy (or own) stats on attack;

yes with hook script

• Use different death animations (or use the violent ones more/less often);

yes with different sfall hook script,tho you would have to use 2 different,one to set a variable to the weapon pid, then the one to force the death animation(tho some critters don't have the art for all death anims,you have to search the files and not force it if they don't have it,i have done this and if it is a kill shot and you are forcing to a death anim that the critter doesn't have,the engine stops you from attacking,effectively breaking the game,as you cant attack)

• Have aimed burst;

don't think so.at least not without additional functions added to sfall

• Have the Rocket Launcher or Flamer type of attack (the flamer type of attack can be good for a shotgun);

yes can use the graphic,but i don't think all weapons have the art

• Always do full damage (without being reduced);[b]

yes,with hook script

• Use different formula for burst (for example, one in that distance has effect only on accuracy if the player has a certain amount of that weapon skill);[/b]

yes,with hook script

• Add AC or any type of resistance/threshold when worn;

yes,with a sfall global script,tho maybe cause bugs if you don't set a var to remove the bonus/penalty and the game is saved and reloaded

• Increase own chance of critical miss;

yes with a hook script

• Option for melee attack for a ranged weapon (proven that someone provides the animation).

yes(but only when new art is produced)

edit : to clarify,both of these is yes,but the actual file would not have the perks,but you can simulate the effect with a hook script

• Have a weapon with two or more perks (I posted this mostly because i am nearly certain it's impossible)

don't think so

• Add a new weapon perk (if yes - what can a perk do?);

maybe,with custom perks,and hook scripts

Nirran

 

[Blackened]

Thank you for the information!

• Have the Rocket Launcher or Flamer type of attack (the flamer type of attack can be good for a shotgun);
yes can use the graphic,but i don't think all weapons have the art

You misunderstood me. What I meant is the explosion from the rocket launcher, or the type of attack of Flamer - it uses a single "bullet", and yet it can hit a few targets. If you apply this to a shotgun, it should be able to hit a few targets in one non-burst shot, and the rocket launcher effect, well, I haven't thought of how to apply this one yet.

• Add a new weapon perk (if yes - what can a perk do?);
maybe,with custom perks,and hook scripts

Have someone tried this? Did it worked? Could just taking an existing weapon perk and modifying the numbers work (taking accuracy and increasing its effect)?

 

[Ardent]

EDIT:

Just seen my post is pretty much irrelevant. Sorry then.

END OF EDIT.

I know for certain two of these at least. The spear has a range of 2 for its non-throwing attacks.

Confirmed. You can have a melee weapon with a range greater than 1.

As well as that, you can certainly add new attack types to any weapon, a single shot minigun is certainly possible.

That's true, but you need to have an appropriate animation. For instance, I don't think there is an animation for a single shot in the minigun set. You'd need to make such animation or the game crashes (possibly).

also probable that you can give a ranged weapon a melee attack, though I'm decidedly uncertain about that truth told.

Again, this would require the set to have a swing/thrust animation. Don't know if this is possible.

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Other stuff:

• Change the damage type (like melee weapons with fire damage type);

I'd say yes, you can do it. Though I never tested it. So it's possible to be possible, someone needs to check.

• Change damage type to a mixed one (a weapon deals 100 damage, 30 of it is affected by Normal resistance/threshold, 60 of it by Laser, and 10 of it - by EMP);

Very improbable. Some serious haxor/programmer should say something about this. (Timeslip?)

Make the character (or his target) occasionally say something when he uses the weapon;

This could be done easily by modifying obj_dude.int (player's script). If you give me more details, I could give you an example.

• Have a 0 AP requirement;

Possible, though that would need to be checked. Just set the AP value for an attack to 0 and see for yourself.

• Have different damage against a certain type of enemies;

Don't think so.

• Use different death animations (or use the violent ones more/less often);

I think this may be possible by using sfall's hookscripts. I believe Nirran was exploring such possibilities, though I may be wrong.

• Have aimed burst;

Don't think so. Impossible, most likely.

• Have the Rocket Launcher or Flamer type of attack (the flamer type of attack can be good for a shotgun);

Didn't Magnus pull this trick off for his version of Sawed-Off shotgun? Maybe try to PM him about it.

• Always do full damage (without being reduced);

I'd say, make an ammo which has DR modifier of -100, and a weapon which has damage from e.g. 20 to 20. This way, you should always deal full damage. This needs to be tested, of course.

 

[Nirran]

Thank you for the information!

• Have the Rocket Launcher or Flamer type of attack (the flamer type of attack can be good for a shotgun);
yes can use the graphic,but i don't think all weapons have the art

You misunderstood me. What I meant is the explosion from the rocket launcher, or the type of attack of Flamer - it uses a single "bullet", and yet it can hit a few targets. If you apply this to a shotgun, it should be able to hit a few targets in one non-burst shot, and the rocket launcher effect, well, I haven't thought of how to apply this one yet.

• Add a new weapon perk (if yes - what can a perk do?);
maybe,with custom perks,and hook scripts

Have someone tried this? Did it worked? Could just taking an existing weapon perk and modifying the numbers work (taking accuracy and increasing its effect)?

You misunderstood me. What I meant is the explosion from the rocket launcher, or the type of attack of Flamer - it uses a single "bullet", and yet it can hit a few targets. If you apply this to a shotgun, it should be able to hit a few targets in one non-burst shot, and the rocket launcher effect, well, I haven't thought of how to apply this one yet.

im not sure then

Have someone tried this? Did it worked? Could just taking an existing weapon perk and modifying the numbers work (taking accuracy and increasing its effect)?

check my edit

Nirran

 

[Josan12]

• Have the Rocket Launcher or Flamer type of attack (the flamer type of attack can be good for a shotgun);

Actually that was me. And yes - it works quite nicely, although every critter hit by the burst will receive FULL damage so you probably need to tone down the damage caused by the weapon.

 

[Ardent]

Actually that was me. And yes - it works quite nicely, although every critter hit by the burst will receive FULL damage so you probably need to tone down the damage caused by the weapon.

Oh, sorry then. So, how did you actually do it? Which option needs to be set for this to work? Or did you hex-edit it?

 

[Josan12]

Oh, sorry then. So, how did you actually do it? Which option needs to be set for this to work? Or did you hex-edit it?

I just used Cubiks item editor and changed the weapon attack type to 'flame' (which shows up as 'burst' in-game) That's it.