Why do the Bobrov brothers have accents?

Fowler

Fowler

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No, really, how do they have accents?
I'm pretty sure you can see the ignorance or stupidity (or both) of this writing if you know any lore.
 
Why do people assume accents would go away after 200 years? I'm honestly curious.
 
Dr Fallout said:
TorontRayne said:
Why do people assume accents would go away after 200 years? I'm honestly curious.
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What I would say is why do people who live in a xenophobic America that has anti Russian propaganda and who are Russian have obvious accents?
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Many Russians immigrated to that area after World War 2. I would assume like in the real world there are large communities of people with that background who lived in the area. Same with Cait. The stereotypical depiction of them is rather poor but them simply having accents isn't a problem to me personally.
 
Fowler said:
No, really, how do they have accents?
I'm pretty sure you can see the ignorance or stupidity (or both) of this writing if you know any lore.
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Why does Lou Tenant in Fallout 1 have an accent?

I think you might be overreaching trying to hate on Fallout 4 with this, but I get it. I just completed the quest where you find a ghoul who has been trapped in a fridge since the bombs fell, so yes the writing is bad and the lore is bad and they should feel bad.
 
TorontRayne said:
Why do people assume accents would go away after 200 years? I'm honestly curious.
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I've seen several immigrants (my father and myself among them, albeit I was 8 years old) gradually lose their accents to a greater or lesser degree over the years. You just naturally start talking like the people around you. And that's over less than a generation; 200 years is a long time. Unless the family purposefully cultivates the accent, and I assume language, for some reason (like some Jewish communities do) it seems highly unlikely that an accent would survive that time, or at least not one as pronounced for sure.

I mean look at, say, the German immigrants that came to the US over the years. Some of them fairly recently, around WW2. The majority of US citizens are descended from Germans apparently, even. Yet from my experience you don't exactly have loads of people speak with Bavarian accents or something in that country. The initial generation may keep their accents, maybe their kids, but beyond that the people are usually well integrated.

It's not a big deal, really. But it does sound a bit odd. Cait has a similarily heavy and inexplicable Irish accent, albeit I guess it makes slightly more sense in Boston.
 
Irwin John Finster said:
Fowler said:
No, really, how do they have accents?
I'm pretty sure you can see the ignorance or stupidity (or both) of this writing if you know any lore.
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Why does Lou Tenant in Fallout 1 have an accent?

I think you might be overreaching trying to hate on Fallout 4 with this, but I get it. I just completed the quest where you find a ghoul who has been trapped in a fridge since the bombs fell, so yes the writing is bad and the lore is bad and they should feel bad.
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A received pronunciation/British accent is much more explainable - someone may pick up received pronunciation when they perceive it as "superior" and speak in such a way as to seem superior and more intelligent than others around them, and to make themselves more memorable. There are easy ways to write this into the Fallout setting, such as poring over pre-war archives and the like.
 
Fowler said:
Irwin John Finster said:
Fowler said:
No, really, how do they have accents?
I'm pretty sure you can see the ignorance or stupidity (or both) of this writing if you know any lore.
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Why does Lou Tenant in Fallout 1 have an accent?

I think you might be overreaching trying to hate on Fallout 4 with this, but I get it. I just completed the quest where you find a ghoul who has been trapped in a fridge since the bombs fell, so yes the writing is bad and the lore is bad and they should feel bad.
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A received pronunciation/British accent is much more explainable - someone may pick up received pronunciation when they perceive it as "superior" and speak in such a way as to seem superior and more intelligent than others around them, and to make themselves more memorable. There are easy ways to write this into the Fallout setting, such as poring over pre-war archives and the like.
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Agreed. Lot's of people speak in an English accent because it's popular.
 
There was some speculation talk of the existence of ethno-specific Vaults, far as I've heard. There might've been Vaults that had specific ethnic communities grouped up together in one Vault each as a form of control vault and a mini experiment. I'm not actually sure how plausible that actually sounds in terms of lore and reasoning, but it sounds pretty solid as an idea, in my opinion.

Sort of my headcanon that somewhere around the Commonwealth are Vaults full of Slavic people and British people. Or Russian and Scottish people, specifically even.
 
ZigzagPX4 said:
There was some speculation talk of the existence of ethno-specific Vaults, far as I've heard. There might've been Vaults that had specific ethnic communities grouped up together in one Vault each as a form of control vault and a mini experiment. I'm not actually sure how plausible that actually sounds in terms of lore and reasoning, but it sounds pretty solid as an idea, in my opinion.

Sort of my headcanon that somewhere around the Commonwealth are Vaults full of Slavic people and British people. Or Russian and Scottish people, specifically even.
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Why though?
 
Accents I really give a pass. Aradesh, Loxely and Morpheus do come to mind. It's never really bothered me as it always came down to their character and writing. Morpheus to me seemed more menacing because of his accent. Aradesh, more kind, and Loxely, a derpy oversight but made him more like the Robin of Loxely, good for a giggle I suppose. Though Loxely is one of the weaker moments of Fallout for me. Same for the Lieutenant, made him more menacing. Fallout 2 you also had Sulik but not sure where his accent came from outside of the whole they're "tribals" thing but still gave him some flavor at least. Seemed a little Rasta for the area but is also a possibility. Accents for me at least. Not all that important to me but have only run across two npcs with non Bostonian accents, Curie and Cait.

Edit: There are American and Bostonian accents.
 
I eat supermutants said:
Accents I really give a pass. Aradesh, Loxely and Morpheus do come to mind. It's never really bothered me as it always came down to their character and writing. Morpheus to me seemed more menacing because of his accent. Aradesh, more kind, and Loxely, a derpy oversight but made him more like the Robin of Loxely, good for a giggle I suppose. Though Loxely is one of the weaker moments of Fallout for me. Same for the Lieutenant, made him more menacing. Fallout 2 you also had Sulik but not sure where his accent came from outside of the whole they're "tribals" thing but still gave him some flavor at least. Seemed a little Rasta for the area but is also a possibility. Accents for me at least. Not all that important to me but have only run across two npcs with non Bostonian accents, Curie and Cait.

Edit: There are American and Bostonian accents.
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I don't think Aradesh had an accent. I'm pretty sure that's Tony Shalhoub's voice.
 
-Both Tenpenny and Moriarty have been confirmed to be from other countries, and It was heavily suggested Dukov was as well.
-Fallout 2 had a tribal and some hobos fixing up an oil tanker and sailing it over 100 miles to the Enclave Oil Rig.
-Fallout 3 had Tobar and his boat which used to sail the 800+ miles between The Commonwealth and the Broken Banks.
-Vikings crossed the ocean in wood boats, far more primitive then anything built in 2077.

Is it REALLY that hard to imagine that people could fix up a boat made using 2077 tech, and sail it to America?
 
Funny.

When we use reality as argument, because the ruins and effects of nuclear detonations in Fallout 4 are not very believable, it is ignored. But when it comes to Moriarty and Tenpenny, suddenly the exploration of Vikings are relevant.

At which point do you decide what works and what doesn't work in a setting like Fallout? The answer. Never.

Writers are supposed to have fun and not care about something as trivial like consistency, and something as meaningless like lore should neve dictate fun.
 
Crni Vuk said:
When we use reality as argument, because the ruins and effects of nuclear detonations in Fallout 4 are not very believable, it is ignored.
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That's because lore from Fallout 1 shows that Fallout's universe never used realistic nukes, and always used nukes with little explosive power, but far greater radiation output. Lore has directly shown that part of the universe is unreal, whereas lore has shown other parts, such as people being able to fix boats and sail them, is something that actually happen.

Its not an all or nothing situation, and the fact that you tried to reduce it to such really shows how desperate you are.

I applaud the effort, but your argument was undermined by its lack of thought. 4/10 for effort.
 
No Someguy, you have already proven wrong on the nukes, even by citing the numbers from the guide (which you brought up but tried to move goalposts when even those didn't support your claims) and the representation of the gameworld it has never supported any of your crackpot claims that Fallout 4 is somehow consistent with the other games in any way.

Your flimsy arguments have more than been debunked yet you keep acting like you are somehow the smart one.
 
Because accents are effective uses of satire, and tools for playing on, and against, tropes and expectations - which is what Fallout 1 and 2 did so well.

Bethesda however lacks the narrative fortitude or competence to know what any of that means. So they have accents because Bethesda felt like it.
 
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