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sea said:
I know that a lot of people feel that modern firearms don't really fit within the Fallout universe, but honestly I don't mind that much so long as they aren't direct copies of existing modern weapons (like the M4A1, SCAR etc.). Still, a lot of modern guns have their roots in pre- and post-World War II firearm designs, so it's not at all inconceivable that we'd see more advanced versions and evolutions of those weapons. Remember that the AR-15 appeared in the early 1960s, and combined with the fact that we don't know precisely how or when the Fallout timeline diverged, it's a bit much to expect all developments in weapons technology to be totally different from our own world.

It's a matter of an unique theme Fallout 1 had considering weapons. Putting in guns you can see in every other goddamn FPS kinda detracts from that uniqueness.
 
how was this quote ? From Cain or Taylor ? Really cant remember it that well right now but something along the lines it was more important for them to explore the morals and ethnics of a post apocalyptic world then to hunt for a biger plasmarifle. Sadly with F3 this loost its meaning and got replaced by "hey! Its Fallout! Letz go nucular!" - "Violance is fffff**** funny" ~ Todd howard or something.
 
Crni Vuk said:
how was this quote ? From Cain or Taylor ? Really cant remember it that well right now but something along the lines it was more important for them to explore the morals and ethnics of a post apocalyptic world then to hunt for a biger plasmarifle. Sadly with F3 this loost its meaning and got replaced by "hey! Its Fallout! Letz go nucular!" - "Violance is fffff**** funny" ~ Todd howard or something.

I really think you mean ethics.
 
I'm not sure if anybody is still wondering about the assault rifle discussed on page 1 of this thread, but I thought I might shed some light on the subject.

(Keep in mind that we can only see certain parts of the rifle, so it's impossible to say everything about it. The receiver, hand guard, telescopic sight and front sight are the only parts I can make out.)

The rifle pictured appears to be a poorly copped Colt M4A1 equipped with parts from the SOPMOD suite.
-The receiver looks like a standard modern AR-15 receiver, though it isn't possible to tell what caliber it's chambered for from this picture. I'd say 5.56 x 45 NATO, but who knows. The receiver is missing a bolt catch, which I believe was a mistake on the person who designed that particular model. The upper receiver has a M1913 Picatinny rail, a feature designed by Knights Armament Co. and Colt around the early 1990's.
-The hand guard appears to be a Knights Armament Co. Rail Interface System (RIS), also early 1990's.
-The telescopic sight looks like a Trijicon Advanced Combat Optical Gunsight (ACOG) TA01 NSN. This is also a poorly made model, lacking certain details that would help me identify it's method of mounting or weather or not that's a reflex sight sitting on top.
-The front sight looks like a standard AR-15 fixed front sight.
-The rifle's muzzle is not visible, leading me to believe this is a short barreled rifle we're looking at, with a barrel length of either 10.5" or 11.5"

All of these parts were featured on the original M4A1 SOPMOD, a weapon system which started it's life around the mid 1990's and saw service with special operations forces around the world.

On the subject of Raul's slung rifle, we can only make out the stock, which appears to be a Magpul PRS- a sight which can be affixed to many modern rifles and even shotguns, so I don't think you can accurately speculate on whatever it may be. I will say though, that stock was not designed for carbine length rifles like the one mentioned above.
 
Myerp. You can hardly tell apart that custom DMR-style Koyote thing and a sopmodded M4. It certainly has the custom gun's paintwork, but it's missing a lot of geometrical detail.

In any case, I really don't feel 'real world' guns are a good idea in the Fallout setting. More on this in a bit.
 
Yeah, I always felt that the Desert Eagle was unfitting... Fallout 2 made it worse with all those real world guns.
I just don't like the Picatinny rails on that rifle. I don't think that military tactics in the Fallout universe ever advanced to the point in which a highly modular weaponsystem for individual fighters would be needed (at least not an assault rifle).
From what I gathered, they fought wars the old fashioned way: with soldiers and tanks without that guerilla-warfare that is employed in our world.
The development of highly effective energy weapons rendered suchadvanced assault rifles obsolete, anyway.
 
I,ve been playing Fallout 3 of late, with enough mods to avoid the abortion of a main quest and i haven't been using any texture mods (besides project beauty which makes faces look less oblivion). It struck me that the game looks a lot better than the screenshots and video's seem to suggest. Could just be the low resolution of the screenshots you usually find though.
 
The Legionnaires... their skirts are ragged and torn, but their boots look new. I honestly though they were girls at first glance. I'd hit that--hey wait! Apparently, Legionnaires shave their legs.

I'm just nitpicking really.
 
If you go by that, all Fallout 3 characters are shaved.
 
I just really don't see why they can't just put the classic AK-112 back into the game. Or even just keep FO3's assault rifle. The M4 is just unfitting to the universe. There's no reason for there to be M4s suddenly appearing on the West Coast.
 
Faceless_Stranger said:
I just really don't see why they can't just put the classic AK-112 back into the game. Or even just keep FO3's assault rifle. The M4 is just unfitting to the universe. There's no reason for there to be M4s suddenly appearing on the West Coast.
Maybe they WILL put the Ak112 back into the game. Maybe that M4 thingie is just a special weapon...
 
Hassknecht said:
Faceless_Stranger said:
I just really don't see why they can't just put the classic AK-112 back into the game. Or even just keep FO3's assault rifle. The M4 is just unfitting to the universe. There's no reason for there to be M4s suddenly appearing on the West Coast.
Maybe they WILL put the Ak112 back into the game. Maybe that M4 thingie is just a special weapon...
I really hope so, but I'm not holding my breath.
 
I'm sure we all have our beef with Tactics, but that had a fair amount with of 2000's guns. As in, it's nothing new. But I for one also think it's weird to have post 1950s new weapon IPs, like the m-16, in the game. While an Ak-47 or variant is fine. It's like adding a modified Humvee with underbelly armor in Fallout that only came about in the real world after the invasion of afghanistan, or something like that.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Tactics_weapons#Small_guns
 
I don't think Tactics is that much of a canon in terms of weaponry, if canon at all.
And looking at the image at first made me think I was looking either at MW2 with geckos or FO3 w/ stupid modern weapon mods.
 
RoseKilla said:
I don't think Tactics is that much of a canon in terms of weaponry, if canon at all.
And looking at the image at first made me think I was looking either at MW2 with geckos or FO3 w/ stupid modern weapon mods.

This quote makes me sad. Now people are starting to think that every game that has a first person option and guns looks like MW2.
 
Expresate said:
This quote makes me sad. Now people are starting to think that every game that has a first person option and guns looks like MW2.

Sorry, wasn't intended. But in this picture you can see that the developers themselves somehow start making their games more similar to each other.
 
yes, I noticed that as well and I find it a extremly sad evolution games feeling more and more alike.
 
Crni Vuk said:
yes, I noticed that as well and I find it a extremly sad evolution games feeling more and more alike.

Heh, maybe the next 'Fallout' will have a cover system. Popamole + VATS = gold! :P
 
x'il said:
Crni Vuk said:
yes, I noticed that as well and I find it a extremly sad evolution games feeling more and more alike.

Heh, maybe the next 'Fallout' will have a cover system. Popamole + VATS = gold! :P

Oh god no :shock:
Played ME2 some time ago and it became so predictable.
Cover-based shooting can just fuck right off IMO. :wink:
 
x'il said:
Crni Vuk said:
yes, I noticed that as well and I find it a extremly sad evolution games feeling more and more alike.

Heh, maybe the next 'Fallout' will have a cover system. Popamole + VATS = gold! :P
Oh yeah, complete with auto-heal.
Fuck Stimpacks or magically healing after resting one hour. Waiting behind a rock for ten seconds is all you need :D
 
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