Fallout 3 moves 4.7 million copies

Is it so wrong to appeal to a broad segment? Is it wrong to bring new fans into a franchise?
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Is it wrong to dumb down and change franchise so that it can be easily mainstreamed?
Look out, trick question.
 
mattamusprime said:
Is it so wrong to appeal to a broad segment? Is it wrong to bring new fans into a franchise?
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What a stupid question, of course not. The issue is how this is being done. In Fallout 3's case, the attraction of new fans was accomplished by removing anything Fallout from the game except a vague nuclear wasteland setting, and replacing it with renamed Oblivion game mechanics, dialogue, quests, and level design.
 
betamonkey said:
Obviously you didn't forget it. ;)

And some people around the office think it will contend for GOTY, at least in its genre.. albeit a genre that has little competition.
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well spore back them looked promising, the idea of creating your own specie since the beginning of life was good. ¿the problem? its to damn easy and gets boring over time, now expansions are coming but that wont fix the mess (for now).

the same can be said about the sims 3, the characters react like the sims 2, i bet the will move, speak, sit, wach tv, and never wash their teeth as the sims 2. But people will waste their money anyway so i cant help there only wonder.

another case Resident evil 5
 
beverageleverage said:
mattamusprime said:
Is it so wrong to appeal to a broad segment? Is it wrong to bring new fans into a franchise?
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What a stupid question, of course not. The issue is how this is being done. In Fallout 3's case, the attraction of new fans was accomplished by removing anything Fallout from the game except a vague nuclear wasteland setting, and replacing it with renamed Oblivion game mechanics, dialogue, quests, and level design.
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In your unjustified opinion.

In my (unjustified) opinion, I think Bethsoft did a pretty good job. I get Fallout vibes from the game. I'm enjoying it and am surprised it retains so many 'niche' elements such as the skill checks and so on, considering it's also a blockbuster.
 
Mr. Teatime said:
In my (unjustified) opinion, I think Bethsoft did a pretty good job. I get Fallout vibes from the game. I'm enjoying it and am surprised it retains so many 'niche' elements such as the skill checks and so on, considering it's also a blockbuster.
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Yes, those skill checks for minor amounts of added loot certainly are so very niche.

What happened to you, man? You used to be cool. Kind of.
 
Mr. Teatime said:
I think Bethsoft did a pretty good job.
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With copy-pasting game mechanics, dialogue, quests, and level design from Oblivion. Do I really have to spell this out for you? There is plenty of justification in the news and fallout 3 subforums, but I can go ahead and waste some time glossing over a few things. SPECIAL, magic compass, Radiant AI, Theft and inability to sleep in an abandoned area (which is by the way devoid of organized law and even if it wasn't how could they possibly telepathically enforce their bizarre sleeping laws?), abundance of identical vault/cave/house/landmark ayleid ruin style dungeons with basically nothing inside them or at the very best an indication via holotape of what obviously happened there but no story to go with it, and most disappointing for me the morality, is straight out of Oblivion. But most of us have been saying this for months because the previews made it obvious.

Bethesda writes their game stories like Dane Cook writes his jokes; no point, no substance, no flow, no punchline, just a lot of yelling and screaming incoherently to get the audience's attention for some "wow look at that cool shit, hey check this out, yo! yeehaw awesome look at that dude's head explode!"

Steel be with you.
 
I honestly hope that when within the coming months Borderlands and Rage are released that the sales of Fallout 3 will drastically reduce.

I still have the hope that Bethesda will be forced to sell the Fallout franchise to more competent developers.
 
Hope in one hand and spit in the other and see which fills up first.

Sorry to break it to you but Fallout 3 has already turned a hefty profit and of course sales will reduce in a few months. It happens to every game ever made, excluding WoW of course.

Selling it off? Maybe in 10 years.
 
I know its unrealistic but I still can hope so.

As I mentioned before, Fallout didn't need to be saved by the hacks of Bethesda, it could have been in limbo for a while longer until competent developers came alone.

Now it has turned into yet another random title aimed at dumb action obsessed console gamers.
 
Fallout® 3 has enjoyed record sales...
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So has Jimmy Dean Chocolate Chip Pancakes & Sausage on a Stick®.

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As Henry Mencken once said, "nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public."

 
Someone made this the last time the topic of pancake sausages and Fallout 3 came up.
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Personally, I think that a homemade version of that could be extremely tasty but that these look like shit on a stick.
 
I simply want to say a few things before I do massive amounts of homework because I put it off until last minute because I have been getting high and playing Fallout 3.

I like the game. Is it as good as Fallout 1 and 2? I don't think so. Is it fun to me? Yes.

I did have a few problems with various parts of the game.

If I kill someone in their house in the middle of the wasteland... please for fucks sakes let me sleep in their bed. This "no this bed is owned" shit is getting fucking dumb.

Please improve the writing for the next game. Many parts were OK, lots were not. Need better writers for the sequel.

Tactics has been retconned. We have no say so in the matter. I do think it is funny how Bethesda kinda said fuck you Black Isle by doing this. But I like Tactics story so it doesn't bother me.

I want to be a higher level than 20. Really? Cmon guys.

More armor and weapons choices please. Mods. Mods please help me. I promise I will learn how to use a mod kit. Just make one. Please?

Fallout Lyons Pride the official expansion. Coming mid 09.........
 
TorontRayne said:
Tactics has been retconned. We have no say so in the matter. I do think it is funny how Bethesda kinda said fuck you Black Isle by doing this.
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Black Isle had little/nothing to do with Tactics, and Tactics wasn't actually canon to begin with.
 
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