Wooz said:whirlingdervish said:mlk said:Wooz said:Oriental women in a vault, during a period the US was in... a... war with... China?
You are aware I'm sure of the several million asian-americans in the US.
Well lets see, we were not at war with Japan, Tiawan, South Korea, Indonesea, and a lot of other countries. so eh.
Do you recall where the united states detained a lot of them during WW2, regardless of their actual nationality, when the only people of asian descent that we were actually at war with were the Japanese?
Yes. That's irrelevant to the point at hand:
Fallout's timeline is different than our own, based on the fifties' visions of the future, getting nuked. You'll notice that in every single "World of Tomorrow" illustration from the fifties, the protagonists are always tall, blonde and blue-eyed. If the rare cases they aren't, you'll see a tall, white guy with black hair. You'll never see a picture of the stereotypical white family living next door to blacks, asians, mexicans, italians, slavs or... or... anything, really, besides other white anglo-saxon protestants. The World of Tomorrow had no place for minorities, as illustrated in William Gibson's Gernsback Continuum short story. The mentality of people during the forties and fifties was pretty damn racist, make no mistake.
You know there were prisoner camps, (in California, no less) for asian-americans during WW2? Imprisoned there "just in case" they could be Japanese collaborators. They didn't really give a damn if the person was Korean or Kazakh, anyody looking reven emotely oriental was a suspect. Furthermore, the tragedy of hundreds of black soldiers coming home from the war against the epitome of racism, the nazis, were often killed on the way or even inside their home towns. Ironic, and to be honest, disgusting.
So, since the people who took shelter in Vaults were supposed to be the top-of the cream to rebuild the world in America's image after a nuclear war, it's pretty damn unlikely they'd allow someone with a Chinese surname inside.
War dissidents, you say. Maybe. Still, it's a bit odd and unconsistent with the mentality (which, by the way, led to nuclear war in the first place) upon which the series is based.
The war was over resources and oil. But don't forget there wasn't all-out war until the Great War, which only lasted 2 hours.
Yes, there was conflict in Alaska, but we don't know the full picture.
Yes, the mentality may have been there in the 50s, but there's also the Anti-Communist movement during the Cold War. The conflict with China largely resembles the Cold War and the Red Scare than any conflict before.
More than likely, people were calling people Communists and locked up anyone who fought that movement.