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i guess everyone will just have to get used to the fact that our beloved franchise will never be back to the good ole days. im actually thankful obsidian is working on it, and hopefully will be in charge of the series abd start to right the shitfest that was fallout 3. i just really hope they bring back jimmy hats and child killing, bethesda showed NO balls
 
Beth are making games for general audience. And we are not general audience, that`s why we don`t like them.
 
Sigh... I want to be excited about this I really do but its sounding more and more like basically Fallout 3.5, sure its an improvement but its still not good.

It doesn't matter how many sprinkles you put on a pile of dog shit, it is still dog shit.
 
I dont like Beth cause they simply make bad games, not cause they aim for the "casual" gamer ~ what ever that now is.

Even by looking at main stream games you can get quality. I have enjoyed quite a lot of main stream media in the past which also include games. Now and then there is nothing bad with that kind of enjoyment. But seriously, all the bugs and stupid design in Oblivion for example proved to me that Bethesda lacks the needed skill to make a game with quality, mainstream or not. level Scaling, broken AI, stupid game design and of course the bugs to name the bigest parts.

Diablo 1 and 2 could be I guess seen as the action RPGs they are as some form of RPG for the masses. So? I love it, still. Its a great game. But its not as buged like games from Bethesda and thinking about what they wanted to achieve with Diablo its gameplay makes much sense.

Bethesda also doesnt even care much about its own fanbase (see the changes from the Dagerfall to Morrowind and now Oblivion). Thats why I dont like them.
 
I liked Daggerfall and kinda Morrowind but Oblivion was a no-go for me. What I like about Fallout NV is that Obsidian is writing the story and dialogue a not Bethesda. I'm also glad Chris Avellone is on board. About the article 'hardcore' mod is most appreciated. The Area 51 possibility is at least disturbing. Also I am not a fan of seeing all available options in dialogue. Too bad, VATS is still there they could've at least changed it to targeted shot. The super mutants were expected to stay the same maybe slightly changed but they're still of the same model. My hopes are in Todd Howtard's hesitation when he speaks of NV as the more he's not into it the better it will be.
 
actualy I hope that when F:NV hits the shelves one of Todds comments will be that he disslikes the game. That would be the best sign of quality as RPG for NV since Todd isnt really (in my oppinion) someone who likes RPGs.
 
I love how achievement whores are complaining about the hardcore mode being in the game.

I don't want to drink water...

As long as no achievements are linked to it, I'm cool.
SERIOUSLY! DON'T LINK HARDCORE TO ANY ACHIEVEMENTS!
 
Ausir said:
I love how achievement whores are complaining about the hardcore mode being in the game.

I don't want to drink water...

As long as no achievements are linked to it, I'm cool.
SERIOUSLY! DON'T LINK HARDCORE TO ANY ACHIEVEMENTS!

Like someone said to me.

"I don't want to worry about ammo, why should I have to think about what I have on me"
 
Oh yeez.

Someone please explain the appeal of achievements to me.

I honestly see no point in those damn titles with a little graphic symbol, or is this now the new way how we rank individuals in society?

Now if you could unlock extra stuff or features by performing certain non mentioned tasks, it would be a lot more interesting.
 
The Dutch Ghost said:
Oh yeez.

Someone please explain the appeal of achievements to me.

I honestly see no point in those damn titles with a little graphic symbol, or is this now the new way how we rank individuals in society?

Now if you could unlock extra stuff or features by performing certain non mentioned tasks, it would be a lot more interesting.

My E-Peen Bro!

No really though they suck. While some are cool as a little challenges like Team Fortress 2 set 5 people on fire in 10 seconds was kinda fun to get while gettting one for doing the damn tutorial is just lame.

Even more lame is when one misguided sponge attempts to bring up a Gamer Score for various reasons all ending with him looking like a tool.

But the saddest is the ones that go through all the trouble of faking their gamer score by down loading saves.
 
Achievements should be only for Iron Man players. Otherwise, it's not just lame but also pathetic.
 
Yeah.

If I were in charge, all of the achievements would be locked to Hardcore mode.

Stick it to the man that way.

And by men, I mean obsessive compulsive jerks.
 
Sorrow said:
Achievements should be only for Iron Man players. Otherwise, it's not just lame but also pathetic.

yeah, I never got the point of handing out achievements for doing simple things you just have to do in order to get further in the game. sure, killing a boss might grant you an achievement just for the sake of it, but exiting the first dungeon? wow... that sure took some skill.
 
As I said earlier we are not general audience. We like our games to be challenging (and there is any sense of achievement for me, to accomplish something challenging) but most of people this days (especially younger) don`t give a shit. The game must be funny, full of action and with simple fable for everyone to understand quickly. Same trend is noticable in now-a-days cinema. Thats just the way it is unfortunately.
 
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