New Vegas Nexus launched & New Vegas opinions

[WorstUsernameEver]

With the release date this close, it's no surprise that the New Vegas version of the Nexus was launched. For now, it's obviously fairly empty, but considering the speed of the Fallout 3 modding community, expect ports of the most popular mods fairly soon.
While the review embargo won't be lifted until tomorrow, there's already a wealth of snippets coming from reviewers on twitters and forums.

Andrew Reiner (Game Informer executive director):<blockquote>Starting up a third playthrough of New Vegas.

Sorry gang, I can't comment on the game until Tuesday. All my playthroughs will make sense once you read the review.

@ZacharyLevi Killed you in Fallout: New Vegas. Thanks for the experience points!

I can say that I was able to play NV to completion without being stopped by bugs.

(about the review) @ShawnScot it'll be Tues or Wed. </blockquote>Daniel Vavra (screenwriter on Mafia I & II):<blockquote> Hated the story and quests of Fallout 3. Love the story and quests of New Vegas.</blockquote>Jim Sterling (review editor for Destructoid):<blockquote> First Jimpressions of New Vegas: As far as I am concerned, Alpha Protocol never happened now. Slate's clean.

Played New Vegas for two days and have only officially completed two quests. Fucking hell!

I in no way mean to imply that that's a BAD thing, either.

New Vegas has officially overwhelmed me. I have so many quests going on and don't know where to start. This is terrifying and awesome.</blockquote>Tom Chick on Quarter to Three:<blockquote>How do you know I'm playing?

I'm not sure I could even begin to give a thumbs up or thumbs down yet. I can certainly say this is a huge game. I'm about 25 hours in and still pretty overwhelmed by the breadth of stuff to do. It's very Fallout 3.

I will say it's got some really disappointing tech and balance issues. The Xbox 360 version has locked up on me several times and I've heard the same from a colleague who's also playing. In addition, there seems to be some sort of memory leak. I was about ready to just throw in the towel, convinced that the geometry and effects in the actual New Vegas area were too much for the engine. But I cleared the memory cache (not sure if that actually does anything) and restarted my 360, and that made a world of difference. Now I'm making a point to quit out every few hours.

And although I love the hardcore mode in theory, in practice it hasn't been the least bit challenging. Thanks in part to Fallout's lack of a real economy, the hardcore mode just feels like an extra layer of futzing. It's more flavor than difficulty, I'd say.

I'll be doing a game diary series on Fidgit next week and a full review for Gameroni, Jason's site, when I'm done.

-Tom</blockquote>To which Josh Sawyer replied on the Obsidian forums:<blockquote> BTW, yes, clearing your Xbox 360 memory cache really does do something!

We did find some legacy memory leak issues but I believe we fixed them.

However, memory fragmentation will inevitably occur in this engine, which is why clearing a 360's cache can *~ automagically ~* make Oblivion/F3/F:NV go from unstable to stable in some circumstances. </blockquote>Producer Tess Treadwell about the project:<blockquote>The Obsidian crew and our comrades at Bethesda have spent almost two long, hard years on this project. Tomorrow at midnight, Fallout: New Vegas will be (officially) out in the wild. For anyone interested, a bunch of us are going to be signing copies at the GameStop in the Irvine Spectrum. Anyway, I think I speak for all of us when I say we’re a bit nervous, but the review scores we’ve received so far are stellar. And to be honest - in the end, nothing the critics or consumers can say will take away from all the love and care and hard work we’ve all put into this game. </blockquote>Spotted on the Obsidian Entertainment boards.

 

[Faceless Stranger]

I don't like that tidbit about hardcore mode....

 

[C2B]

I don't like that tidbit about hardcore mode....

Then again its from Tom Chick. So I would take it with a grain of salt.

And even then there will be fast mods out that ramp the difficulty of it up.

Daniel Vavra (lead writer on Mafia I & II):

Hated the story and quests of Fallout 3. Love the story and quests of New Vegas.

This is really really encouraging.

 

[TheUnwashed]

''Being overwhelmed, and not knowing were to start. ''
this could be a sign that F:NV plays like F1 and F2, in these you really needed to inform yourself about travel locations and set priority's when questing, instead of just bashing around blindly> This was true especially early in the game.

What does 'Tom' mean about fallout economy, as being the reason for a not very interesting Hardcore mode?

 

[overtake]

I cant get the game before next week. I'm kind of dying inside.

Still feeling really mixed about it. Somehow im afraid that it will have no immersion due the plastic looking world and mechanics. Since I started playing F3 I liked it for a while and had great hype for it(didnt read nma or such back then). But For NV, the shadow of bethesdas mistakes lies upon it.

 

[OakTable]

Dunno, Hardcore sounds a bit tedious now that I've fully examined it. You can get food from everywhere, water from everywhere, and ammo can be reduced to it's base components and then reassembled if it's too heavy. The only really good addition was the slow healing thing.

 

[The Dutch Ghost]

Hey guys,

I have a suggestion for a fun game, how long does it take before the modders come up with such 'wonderful' downloads like additional player houses and skins for NPCs and armors.

I give it three days.

And to make things extra interesting, how long will it take before the 'adult' mods appear.

 

[WorstUsernameEver]

And to make things extra interesting, how long will it take before the 'adult' mods appear.

2 hours.

 

[TheUnwashed]

Dunno, Hardcore sounds a bit tedious now that I've fully examined it. You can get food from everywhere, water from everywhere, and ammo can be reduced to it's base components and then reassembled if it's too heavy. The only really good addition was the slow healing thing.

ok I understand>. I hope F:NV s economy will be different from F3.
There should be a distinction between different areas and their economies. Like places were theirs no toilet pots to drink from, for example> that would make sense eh? a loo free area.

Say no more, say no more.
Instead of needing mods> Their should be a perk ''x-ray vision.''
Nod Nod Wink wink

 

[100LBSofDogmeat]

@ZacharyLevi Killed you in Fallout: New Vegas. Thanks for the experience points!

I too shall kill him first playthrough! Maybe second as well.

Hated the story and quests of Fallout 3. Love the story and quests of New Vegas.

This one seems like a no-brainer, but awesome to hear!

First Jimpressions of New Vegas: As far as I am concerned, Alpha Protocol never happened now. Slate's clean.

Hey Jim, #$@% you, buddy. Just kidding. I never had any issues with Alpha Protocol and I loved the game. Never understood people's problems running it. I got it off Steam and never had any crashes, glitches, etc. Then again, I know how to properly run a computer. But glad to there's finally stuff to do in Fallout game since Fallout 2.

I'm not sure I could even begin to give a thumbs up or thumbs down yet. I can certainly say this is a huge game. I'm about 25 hours in and still pretty overwhelmed by the breadth of stuff to do. It's very Fallout 3.

Way to bring the momentum down, Tom. That statement doesn't even make sense, there wasn't shit to do in "Fallout" 3. And I have no idea who the hell you even are.

I will say it's got some really disappointing tech and balance issues. The Xbox 360 version has locked up on me several times and I've heard the same from a colleague who's also playing. In addition, there seems to be some sort of memory leak.

Perhaps someone needs to buy a computer instead of using those hobbled pieces of shit people call consoles. As for his ramblings about the economy and hardcore mode, not to mention the previous comment to mine about the over abundance of food and water, it sounds like hardcore mode might not be as awesome as I'd hoped. Hopefully a mod re-balances this. Flooding the game with resources sounds like a Bethsoft interference.

Still excited though! Preloaded and ready for Tuesday!!

 

[Tyyren]

Ohh, the passion, the passion! Tess loves their baby so much. So heartfelt.

But yeah, tonight's the night. Getting it for the console. Though, I'm afraid I'll be the only one here that will do so. Haters simply gonna hate, but I stick with it not only because of the excellent community and friends I've got there, but because I am much too poor to have a decent, worthy computer. The 'hobbled' will have to do.

 

[100LBSofDogmeat]

Ohh, the passion, the passion! Tess loves their baby so much. So heartfelt.

But yeah, tonight's the night. Getting it for the console. Though, I'm afraid I'll be the only one here that will do so. Haters simply gonna hate, but I stick with it not only because of the excellent community and friends I've got there, but because I am much too poor to have a decent, worthy computer. The 'hobbled' will have to do.

Actually, you can usually build a decent gaming rig for the price of a console. Plus, unlike consoles, you can upgrade the system as you go. In fact, I have a bunch of spare parts for people like you! It's a love-hate with consoles, I've owned both the 360 and PS3, they're fine for what they are, easy to get up and running... just limited in their functioning and hardware.

 

[Texas Renegade]

That's an interesting comment regarding hardcore mode. I am guessing it also has to do with being in early/ beginning areas. Avellone talked about how hard it can be to find supplies in parts of the map.

 

[Tyyren]

Actually, you can usually build a decent gaming rig for the price of a console. Plus, unlike consoles, you can upgrade the system as you go. In fact, I have a bunch of spare parts for people like you! It's a love-hate with consoles, I've owned both the 360 and PS3, they're fine for what they are, easy to get up and running... just limited in their functioning and hardware.

Yeah the convenience has been a big part of it. I mean sure my computer is loaded with old school RPGs and dated shooters, but not much more than that will play on it. Its just been a long time coming of me putting it off. I have 2 computers that would both need new motherboards, plus a whole wealth of new parts to fix up, that I would absolutely have to build a new one. So I'm still stuck with my Xbox, and playing old games with friends on Steam. You know, I have enough friends that build rigs and tell me what to do I really don't have an excuse anymore. It's kind of sad.

But until this gets too off-subject, I must add that the chatter'n'buzz over NV has me a little more hopeful. That may just be shallow though. This is almost the only game I'm buying this fall, so hopefully it keeps me occupied. God knows that Fallout 2 still does. Best use of my parent's money back in 1999, ever.

 

[Blackened]

And although I love the hardcore mode in theory, in practice it hasn't been the least bit challenging. Sad Thanks in part to Fallout's lack of a real economy, the hardcore mode just feels like an extra layer of futzing. It's more flavor than difficulty, I'd say.

What did you expected? Hardcore mode and game difficulty are two separate options. I think they did it right here.

 

[overtake]

^Oh here we go once again...

 

[100LBSofDogmeat]

Yeah the convenience has been a big part of it. I mean sure my computer is loaded with old school RPGs and dated shooters, but not much more than that will play on it.

Nothing wrong with that, I find myself disappointed with the gaming industry more and more these days. Seems like less quality games are coming out amongst the sea of garbage that gets released, so I tend to stick to the older stuff. Sadly, this will probably be the last newer Fallout game I play unless Bethsoft gives up the IP or Obsidian gets to make another.

 

[Tyyren]

Nothing wrong with that, I find myself disappointed with the gaming industry more and more these days. Seems like less quality games are coming out amongst the sea of garbage that gets released, so I tend to stick to the older stuff. Sadly, this will probably be the last newer Fallout game I play unless Bethsoft gives up the IP or Obsidian gets to make another.

Same here. I buy a fair few games every once in a while, only when I give them enough of a look-over and usually when I respect the developers who created it. I don't listen to review scores anyway, so they've never had much weight on my taste or what I buy. Take for instance Alpha Protocol. I was stoked for that game almost simply because I respect Obsidian as a caring developer and the design sounded great. Bought it first day for the 360. Nearly every reviewer gave it an awful score. I enjoyed it a lot, but have yet to complete my second playthough. The only problem there was that I bought a game on a whim that was plagued by one unfortunate circumstance- they were rushed through to production by their publisher, Sega. Sure, it was flawed, but it was still an enjoyable game. Was I wrong to buy it on a whim, though? That's not really anyone else's place to decide.

What was I getting at again? Oh yeah. I'm buying NV on a whim again. I figure by now with the track record, plus another greedy publisher (Beth), unsatisfied with putting out 3rd-rate games and is absolutely banking on another Game of the Year to stick to their belt, I'll go all-in and wager its a safe gamble.

If all the journalists can do it, dammit, I can too.

 

[Tyyren]

Also, I just now noticed there's a little cloaked person in the background of the Latest Image, the deathclaw one. What's that little guy up to? Scandalous voyeur, methinks.

 

[Lingwei]

I have a suggestion for a fun game, how long does it take before the modders come up with such 'wonderful' downloads like additional player houses and skins for NPCs and armors.

It really depends on how long it takes them to release the New Vegas GECK which will be an updated version of the Fallout 3 GECK. It was possible to do modding with user made tools for Oblivion, but it isn't until the developer tools are released that it becomes easy for large numbers of people to start modding.

I haven't heard people asking about it in any of the forums (although I haven't been reading them particularly a lot either), which is different to the leadup to Fallout 3 where people wanted to be sure that there would be the tools released and Hines and his henchmen kept on refusing to say whether they would release them or not right up until the day before they released them. To this day nobody knows why they didn't just come out and say "we are working on releasing them and will let you know closer to the date" and instead insisted on not revealing anything. Personally I think they must get all giddy and feel special about knowing 'secrets'.

I guess everyone is taking it as a given that the tools will be released. Will be interesting to see if a shitstorm devleops if/when the tools fail to be released within a couple of weeks.