The Non-American Politics Thread
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Brahmin Noodles
Still Mildly Glowing
I don't think Islam as a religion its self promotes violence. How some of its so-called "followers" twist and interpret it is a whole other story.
How about you visit the sources listed then? You know, actually look up the links instead of trying to dismiss it entirely because you're desperate for a retort.
What? I'm looking at facts and basing my thoughts around them. Ya know, LEARNING. Should I just ignore everything that hurts my feelings? I don't like the colour of the sky, it's purple now. Don't cite anything scientific (or tell me to just open my eyes).... think for yourself ;^).
No, I'm self aware in that I don't ignore facts right in my face because "muh-muh-muh FEELINGS"
Nice logical fallacy btw, would you like me to put some words in your mouth that you didn't say? I'd rather not because it's a sign of losing an argument (like you are) but if you'd like me to stoop down a bit for you I can.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
Didn't you just ignore ever single fact about Christian terrorism, US' massive civillian kills and their hand on the situation of the middle east just to deflect guilt to Muslims? You are so transparently stupid I almost want to think you are trolling.
No, I addressed them if you'd like to take a few deep breaths and calm down and actually read my posts fully before your knee-jerk reaction compels you to insult me again instead of bringing an actual response to my argument.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
I read your posts, you have sidestepped addressing anything that contradicts your statements and instead you go on racist rants. You are so far in denial you are basically hallucinating.
I've addressed everything that's been brought against my side (barely any of which has come from you, I may disagree with Cmi but at least he doesn't just cry names at me). The only one in denial here is you, who, I might add, has again yet to add anything constructive to the discussion besides calling me names.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
You have ignored almsot eveyrhting that has been brought up to you, you actually think pulling facts out of your ass and making outrageous claims "THEY COME RAPE AND THE WOMEN!"and the typical "Is war, so it's jsutified". Even called a top 10 list of Christian terror attacks hilarious and just dismiss it with a easily refutable claim. You actually think you have an argument other than being a racist jackass.... It's kind of awe inspiring.
1. Show me where I've ignored claims
2. Are you seriously calling the claims of mass rapes and murder in Europe outrageous? Where have you been the past year?
3. Actually prove anything you're saying really. All you do is come into the thread and bellyache about things I haven't done and put words into my mouth. Please actually contribute to the thread. I'm really tired of repeating myself
4. I called the website hilarious, because it's seeping in liberal bias I could smell it. Not the attacks themselves. Reading comprehension folks.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
1. Almost every post you have made.
2. The fact that you say that Muslims only go there to rape, that also ignores rape statistics in general that aren't even related to muslims.
3. I already linked you to articles you have not even bothered counter anything with any arguments but rather more racist dismissals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism#Contemporary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terro...ates#Right-wing_extremism_and_anti-government
http://www.countercurrents.org/lucas240407.htm
You have yet to disprove any of this, you tell others to check the statistics but you willfully ignore them.
You literary said "Give some examples of modern Christian terrorism if you can find them" so you are also ignorant of them, hell, you aren't just ignorant, you are convinced they don't exist.
This is not even getting into the amount of mass shootings in the US compared to other developed nations...
4. Yet that was your only counterpoint to anything listed there.
2. The fact that you say that Muslims only go there to rape, that also ignores rape statistics in general that aren't even related to muslims.
3. I already linked you to articles you have not even bothered counter anything with any arguments but rather more racist dismissals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism#Contemporary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terro...ates#Right-wing_extremism_and_anti-government
http://www.countercurrents.org/lucas240407.htm
You have yet to disprove any of this, you tell others to check the statistics but you willfully ignore them.
You literary said "Give some examples of modern Christian terrorism if you can find them" so you are also ignorant of them, hell, you aren't just ignorant, you are convinced they don't exist.
This is not even getting into the amount of mass shootings in the US compared to other developed nations...
4. Yet that was your only counterpoint to anything listed there.
1. Almost every post you made said you love having sexual relation with a Hitler blow up doll. Don't ask me to show these posts, they just exist, ok? Until you actually show examples I'm just going to ignore this from here on out. Repetition gets annoying although I'm hoping you'll pay attention to my posts at least one of these times. .
2. When dozens upon dozens of rapes occur daily from Muslims it's a relevant issue. Never did I say all btw, it's just the majority.
3. You really want to play this game?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks
Go ahead and do a comparison between your list and mine. Islamic terroism is factually more present and likely than any other forms.
LIKE I ALREADY SAID, Islamic terrorism and is more prevalent, more likely and more supported by the average Muslim than any of these attacks by Christians.
4. No it wasn't. Reread the post again.
Ragemage
Wept for Zion
Not to be rude, but Wikipedia isn't a reliable source for this sort of thing. Wikipedia itself basically says it should not be used as a fact checking website. ( http://isites.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k70847&pageid=icb.page346376 ) It'd look better if you linked from the sources the Wikipedia page is talking about. That way it gives your argument more credibility. If people see Wikipedia attached to something as serious as this argument they aren't going to take you as seriously. Again, sorry if I come off as rude, I'm just trying to help you look as credible as possible.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
1. Compellign argument.
2. "it's just the majority" Wow.
3. Except I haven't said there are no Islamic terrorist attacks, while you literary claimed there where no Christian Terrorist attacks. You also fail to acknowledge the US's hand in the disstabilization of the middle east and how many civillians have been killed y american air strikes.
4.Re read the post. you just dismissed it and said "lol Muslims kill more".
Except that article is not on some Philosophy topic, is a factual list of events, all with a verifiable source. So yeah, goign for the "it's Wikipedia lol!" is desperate anyway.
2. "it's just the majority" Wow.
3. Except I haven't said there are no Islamic terrorist attacks, while you literary claimed there where no Christian Terrorist attacks. You also fail to acknowledge the US's hand in the disstabilization of the middle east and how many civillians have been killed y american air strikes.
4.Re read the post. you just dismissed it and said "lol Muslims kill more".
Except that article is not on some Philosophy topic, is a factual list of events, all with a verifiable source. So yeah, goign for the "it's Wikipedia lol!" is desperate anyway.
Lord knows he needs the help.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
Now you are ignoring a list of events that have a verifiable source while posting polls from a site that is proven to be extremely biased and unthrustworthy.
Brahmin Noodles
Still Mildly Glowing
I'm not going to take sides here, but come on guys, enough. This whole thread has downspiraled into the two of you going back and forth. I'm positive no matter what one of you says you won't convince the other their opinion is wrong. You guys don't have to agree with each other, but this argument is futile and pointless. Please, just stop. Agree to disagree?
1. (Enter me repeating myself asking that you actually show the posts)
2. Well, it is statistically.
3. You've dismissed Islamic terrorist attacks as not mattering as much because you claim that Christians are just as bad. I didn't "literally" say there were no Christian Terrorist attacks. I asked him to list some and low and behold he found 10 from a very biased website that still pale in comparison to the death tolls of Islamic terrorism. Again also ignoring the point that Islamic terrorists are considered good by other Muslims while Christian terrorists are abhorred by Christians. I already mentioned that bad things happen in times of war. What? Would you prefer we just not fire on our enemies and try to play nice while they shoot at us?
4. I didn't dismiss it. I showed how it was a drop in the bucket compared to the countless examples of Islamic terrorism and it's victims. Please acquire some reading comprehension.
Interesting you'd pull the "extremely biased source" when you're still arguing about a list from the same site that uses clickbait article like "REPUBLICANS WANT TO DISMANTLE THE CONSTITUTION" as well as all the other loony stuff I saw on there.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
I said terrosit attacks don't matter much? Man ,you truly are hallucinating. I showed you a list of Christian Terrorist attacks because you asked for it, you even acted as if finding them was a challenge. See, I am not a racist idiot who generalizes and entire culture based on the actions of extremists, I am just showing how hypocrital your entire position is when you just avoid even acknowledging any of the acts of violence and death your preferred group of "good doers" takes part in, even outright ignoring how the US is repsonsible for more civillian deaths than Islamic Terrorist in the past 10 years. Hell the US funded, armed and trained many of the groups that evntually became ISIS and Alquaeda.
You seem to think that just because is called a war atrocities stop beign atrocities.
"Would you prefer we just not fire on our enemies and try to play nice while they shoot at us?" - More than likely what extremist leaders tell their followers the night after a drone strike hits a wedding full of civilians.
See you seem convinced that your country is capable of no wrong doing, if they declare wars to you it must be righteous, even when they are transparently done to gain political power, even at the expense of the people they leave behind.
You then say that "you don't ignore facts because they hurt your feelings" yet you are actively doing just tha tall over this thread.
Talk about reading comprehension, that article wasn't even psoted by me but by Cnri.
You seem to think that just because is called a war atrocities stop beign atrocities.
"Would you prefer we just not fire on our enemies and try to play nice while they shoot at us?" - More than likely what extremist leaders tell their followers the night after a drone strike hits a wedding full of civilians.
See you seem convinced that your country is capable of no wrong doing, if they declare wars to you it must be righteous, even when they are transparently done to gain political power, even at the expense of the people they leave behind.
You then say that "you don't ignore facts because they hurt your feelings" yet you are actively doing just tha tall over this thread.
Talk about reading comprehension, that article wasn't even psoted by me but by Cnri.