You meant this one ?
http://www.nma-fallout.com/showthread.php?202187-tl-dr
I fully understand that it had to be vatted. There would be no way to participate on that linked thread without being offensive at some point.
I hope that, if the guy come back, he will be more softened. (not the opinion, but the way of talking)
Just read that last night. Wonder why he mentioned Rosh, whose been dead to the internet world since 08. And to the vault comment, it was really only Avellone who confirmed that and a few other smaller developers. At the beginning of the Bible, I'm pretty sure it's says not to take everything they write there in direct canon. I know you're a huge fan of Tactic's, but a lot of the original Fallout community do not consider it canon. Even the man I respected most on here Roshambo, would rip on that shit (along with POS) any chance he could get. But once it was announced Bethesda was making Fallout 3, it seemed like he released all his hate on that subject into pages and pages and pages in the old archives. Go back to the, errr, 2007 area for News comments and Fallout sections and you can see a lot of his rants.
The guys who made Fallout Tactics hated Roshambo so much they named a that crazy old man after him in the game. Most speculate they did this because Rosh was constantly protesting Tactics on every Fallout site he could find, and the dev's were getting pissed
(same reason why NMA was blacklisted from the Fallout 3 features). Though some just speculate this was just a practical joke and had no relation, but.... come on guys.... Rosh beat the shit out of that game on the boards. The whole reason he left was because he felt NMA was to soft on Tactics and Fallout 3. From what Yamu told me, at the time
(of development of both games), the news people here were taking a huge neutral stance. Rosh hated it and protested it loud. In fact, so loud that he became infamous to one half, and a hero to another half. But back to the point, he wanted NMA to basically, in their news casts, say "fuck Bethesda, they're going to fuck shit all up" even before anything really official was announced. The way I understand it, he did the same thing with Tactics. But to understand Rosh, you gotta understand who he is. He has a passion/love for gaming, and will criticize your shit to the very last bug. HE had a post in his signature that read one time, not exactly, but something like this:
"Bugs can be fixed, but shitty game design lasts forever". Rosh pretty much lived by that esp. being a game designer himself.
After he got tired of NMA not choosing sides, he dropped off the face of the Earth
(if your reading this, hope your doing well mane). But like me, he practically fell in love with the first Fallout. Perfect game design, awesome graphics
(which competed with games up until around 2005-2006. Most mid-90's games can't say that about their graphics), not that he cared, but generally he loved Fallout. When Fallout 2 was made, the company was Just, JUST starting to get into trouble, and a lot of the original developers went elsewhere. The major dev's stayed to make Fallout 2. Rosh didn't hate it, but he didn't have the same passion for it either. The reason I look up to this man isn't for his knowledge, but in game design we're kindred spirits (though he would kick my ass around NMA if I said anything relatively good about Fallout 3)..
First time I came across NMA in the late 90's early 00's, I saw Rosh shiting on retards left and right. This kind of made me ghost ride around Fallout for a little over a decade. The man I came to fear though, was the same man I came to respect. You really should look up some of his posts. I suggest going to the VAT's section, and going ALL THE WAY back. I keep trying to find the original NMA design by Miroslav archived in the net, in which I did at one point, but then lost (a design that was waaaay different from what we have here). But NMA was awesome
(not saying it isn't anymore, but it's losing spark for Fallout) when Miro created it. Fallout had pretty much just game out, and people talked about all the little hints and secrets and easter eggs for years, until about 2004. Something happened, which I'm going to divide up:
1) Roshambo and some other people were pissed that the Fallout title was AGAIN going to be shit on by another "RPG Gaming Company". He led a boycott of sorts and gave everyone the "The British Are Coming!" line in his own way. NMA was divided. Some wanted the website to protest against it, encouraging people to protest Beth, some wanted to take a neutral stance and wait and see, and another smaller group thought it wasn't going to be, and I quote,
"that bad". Rosh was basically the leader of that first group I mentioned. The dude's passion for Fallout went unmatched here on NMA, Lost Hills
(old community kinda like the Order, whom which they have to let you in, you can;t just get in), and other websites, including the Beth forums himself (which I think he was frequently banned for making the mods look stupid. If Roshambo had any kind of one special, certain talent, it would be making people look stupid. You could be the fucking leader of a Debate team, 10x in a row champion, and he could just out something randomly out his ass and send you with your tail between your legs.
2) The oldies here had pretty much talked about everything there was to talk about in Fallout. (Just got Deja Vu here), half of it's was on the old forums when Miro ruled, the rest lead up to 2004 (by this time Odin was our new All-Father) and the Fallout section of our community died. Immensely. Not saying this is Odin's fault, but Miroslav leaving us was kind of like being shanked in the back in a prison bathroom, the person being shanked being NMA. Odin's a good leader, and he watches over the site and make's sure things are running smoothly, but he's not actually involved in the community that much. That's really the only bad thing (if you even consider that bad) I can say about him, because other than that, I don't know much about him despite his activity piece on his profile updates only once every month or so. I think he just pretty much left it to the mod's to look after Miroslav's child while he tended to real life. (Wonder where Miro is now, and why he hasn't come back? Did I miss something somewhere?)
3) The order (originally made out to be a group of giant Fallout fans, now... now I don't really know what they do. They just talk about random stuff now and don't do many activities anymore) became extremely xenophobic of anyone and everyone, and made you hang around them for years before they would think about letting you in (almost like a biker club, or some kind of Monastic Fallout Priests, only they lost a lot of their (Fallouty-ness")
4) And finally (unless I edit and update this later), we were able to outlast all the other Fallout communities that had more than four-five members. To some people it might be like "fuck yeah, we're the best Fallout community", but what it actually mean's is "Oh fuck, the Fallout community might have caught AIDs from the many other communities it was in bed with (BEthesda, Bioware, etc), and now we have to care for it. I was almost positive that's what the Order was about, but now it doesn't even seem to matter if you're a member or not. Fix that shit Brother None! No, but really, the Order has done a good job, but thinkgs are looking down for NMA as a whole.
Finally, I don't hate Tactics. I have nothing bad to say against it. I just never could get into it. I try to avoid arguing about it but it somehow catches me anyways.
