Why Robert Edwin House is the best hope for the wasteland and humanity

While I doubt the NCR would attack Vegas after their defeat I also doubt their loss would affect them that much. If anything it'd benefit them, they'd get rid of their imperialistic government and look to the problems on the homefront, indeed I think NCR fans should purposefully sabotage the NCR's efforts
I agree completely, in my opinion NCR need to go back home and think about technological progress, medicine and science, not imperialism.
A House win would be the sharp kick up the ass NCR needs to go back to what it should be doing.
 
That's definitely a downside to the Legion, if they win then the NCR is totally fucked, at least Independence and House give the NCR a second chance.
As a side note, I guess there's a chance that the NCR would invade the FEZNV depending on the Couriers actions, if he killed President Kimball and General Oliver as well as getting rid of Caesar and Lanius, then they could invade. Afterall, I'd invade the place if they murdered my commander in chief, killed my military leader and, got rid of my most dangerous enemy, that'd just be common sense.
 
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If House wins and Hanlon takes a position of power then the NCR could reform and be happy with the piece of land it has, but that still only helps NCR (and House obviously helps Vegas). the Legion is clearly better at the whole imperialism thing, they're the only ones (thus far) that can conquer and govern large populations and areas successfully, if House can perform a similar function then I guess I'd concede.
Eh, I'm not sure what is Hanlon's opinion of Mr. House, but the way I see it, him manipulating all those reports and radio messages to keep the NCR on alert, either means he cared enough to see the NCR win the Mojave, or at least care just for the NCR to survive in the frontier. Having enough experiences right there in the front lines, I think Hanlon probably want to try again if he manage to achieve a position of power enough for him to do so.

Anyway, considering Mark II Securitrons kick ass and are quite numerous, they would be more than enough to replace the NCR's soldiers role in patrolling the Mojave and, considering how small the Mojave is in comparison to the Legion's territory, it would only be a matter of time before we see the entirety of Mojave enjoy the same level, if not more, of the security and comfort that the Legion can provide to its' people.
 
Eh, I'm not sure what is Hanlon's opinion of Mr. House, but the way I see it, him manipulating all those reports and radio messages to keep the NCR on alert, either means he cared enough to see the NCR win the Mojave, or at least care just for the NCR to survive in the frontier. Having enough experiences right there in the front lines, I think Hanlon probably want to try again if he manage to achieve a position of power enough for him to do so.
What? I thought Hanlon doctored those reports explicitly to fuck up the war effort without spilling blood, he even says that he thinks defending the Mojave's a lost cause.
Anyway, considering Mark II Securitrons kick ass and are quite numerous, they would be more than enough to replace the NCR's soldiers role in patrolling the Mojave and, considering how small the Mojave is in comparison to the Legion's territory, it would only be a matter of time before we see the entirety of Mojave enjoy the same level, if not more, of the security and comfort that the Legion can provide to its' people.
And it's all well and good that the Mojave will be safe but what of the areas outside of the Mojave, the Legion's the only power that's capable of expanding across the entirety of America (or at least a sizeable chunk of it). House will be content with Vegas, and if he gets his way then the Legion's ambitions are screwed.
 
What? I thought Hanlon doctored those reports explicitly to fuck up the war effort without spilling blood, he even says that he thinks defending the Mojave's a lost cause.
Hmm, I need to get started with Return to Sender once again. It's been months since I first finished my first playthrough of New Vegas + all DLCs, and back then I haven't paid much attention to the dialogues.

And it's all well and good that the Mojave will be safe but what of the areas outside of the Mojave, the Legion's the only power that's capable of expanding across the entirety of America (or at least a sizeable chunk of it). House will be content with Vegas, and if he gets his way then the Legion's ambitions are screwed.
The way I see it, if Mr. House's goal actually started to take form, I think even the NCR and the Legion will begin to look up to Mr. House's project. Who knows, war may never changes, but man can. Maybe with Mr. House achieving his goals, even people like Caesar would begin to rethink his way of life and is it necessary to keep pushing where he wanna go with bloodshed and all?
Also, House's project is big, so keeping it just in the Mojave probably aren't gonna be the best idea. So with his newly up and running army and resources no longer held for the Platinum Chip, he may begin to look forward for expansion, and heck maybe further coalition and treaty to actually work together with other major power in the post-apocalyptic North America.
 
House is weird, he claims he will save humanity and has this space program thing, but wait. What about the people around him? How will he improve humanity on the wastes? How will he change the daily routine of the average person, not only on the wastes, but on the rest of the world? Will he send robots to China, help them rebuild humanity? What about Europe, Latin America? Who is this humanity that he is saving on those rockets? To me seems like he wants money, thats all. He will do what he can to make profit, thinking about it, why couldn't he eventualy even kill the courier, if he/she gets on his way?

I don't trust Mr. House tbh. All this no political thing is nothing but a big falacy. Politics are not the same as bureaucracy. Politics doesn't slow down anything. Politics is what moves everything! House actions and words are politics at its best. He is a very good old timer capitalist, this kind usually isn't really worried with humanity. I fail to see where on his plans he will improve the average life of people, I see a lot of technological progress, but that alone is nothing to rebuild humanity. What will he do about hungry problems, housing problems, land distribution, education, health, transport etc.

None of the three factions really care about this. Caesar wants his big city of glory and honour, no matter how much he kills and destroies any possibility of real social progress, rest of the mankind is not even mentioned as far as I remember, he just went full medieval.

NCR think they are big old USA, think they can afford corruption and to please the interests of selfish elites. Do they care about the average citizen? No, obviously. They would only care about their population if they became a threat due some sort of revolution. Rest of humanity? Not even mentioned as far as I remember. Their small little world of corruption and greed and shallow weltanschauung is what makes impossible for them to do something for humanity.

Thing is, there is no organization other then maybe the Followers of the Apocalypse that is really interested in the humanity and real progress that would affect a lot of people and has potential enough to revert the wasteland situation. Although all the three major factions claim they care about it, just look at what they do in their practice, they don't give a damn to humanity or real progress, this last one, when happens under their rule, is nothing but a mere consequence of their selfish acts, an accident. They are far too narrow minded and has way to big egos to do something significant for humanity as a whole.

All these three major powers needs to go, that would be the best outcome in my opinion. The difference between them are minimal and insignificant, and all are flawed in my opinion.
 
Presumably House would raise the quality of life around the Strip significantly, as well as keeping the slavers to the East out of Vegas.
He seems to only care about Vegas so the other Mojave settlements will probably have a large amount of autonomy, they'll probably be left to figure stuff out for themselves but with economical and military support from House.
 
How will he change the daily routine of the average person, not only on the wastes, but on the rest of the world? Will he send robots to China, help them rebuild humanity? What about Europe, Latin America?
Why should he care about the rest of the world? I smell SJW here. Everybody had their smarts and a chance to prepare for war. House is a genius and he did what he could to save the small part of the world around him, but that does not mean he is obliged to care about every human being on Erf. :smug:
 
House is weird, he claims he will save humanity and has this space program thing, but wait. What about the people around him? How will he improve humanity on the wastes? How will he change the daily routine of the average person, not only on the wastes, but on the rest of the world? Will he send robots to China, help them rebuild humanity? What about Europe, Latin America? Who is this humanity that he is saving on those rockets? To me seems like he wants money, thats all. He will do what he can to make profit, thinking about it, why couldn't he eventualy even kill the courier, if he/she gets on his way?
Like I and Izak has said, Mr. House would eventually look up to improve the lives of the inhabitants of the Mojave. Otherwise, he wouldn't even bother to help the Three Families reform in the first place. And also, if he didn't even care, why would he wiped out the Kings and Primm when you let the NCR occupy Freeside and bring law to Primm? Okay, I'll concede when you brings up Westside and North Vegas Square, but even those 2 areas don't get much closure in the endings slide.

And also, like Goon said, Mr. House aren't really obliged to help the rest of Earth, BUT, if his plan is to work properly, especially since it is a really big plan, I see no reason for Mr. House to just keep everything in the Mojave, let alone just the Strip. If he really just want the money, well, why would he even bother spending so many caps just to find the Chip?

I don't trust Mr. House tbh. All this no political thing is nothing but a big falacy. Politics are not the same as bureaucracy. Politics doesn't slow down anything. Politics is what moves everything! House actions and words are politics at its best. He is a very good old timer capitalist, this kind usually isn't really worried with humanity. I fail to see where on his plans he will improve the average life of people, I see a lot of technological progress, but that alone is nothing to rebuild humanity. What will he do about hungry problems, housing problems, land distribution, education, health, transport etc.
Eh, I'm not sure what do you mean by that? You say politics is what moves everything; and then went on to say Mr. House's actions and words are politics at its best, as if that's a bad thing?

Technological progress is what helps us solve many problems. Hunger, education, health, and transportation, all of that are easily solved with technological progress in the right direction. And then, housing problems and land distribution is probably gonna be a problem if humanity were ever to rise up once again, hence why Mr. House wants people to look up to the stars, where new opportunity awaits if humanity begin to be plagued with overpopulation, or famine like what we saw in Interstellar. I remember somewhere, maybe in NCR's Sharecropper Farms, that they complained how there were only very few food but too many mouths to feed.

None of the three factions really care about this. Caesar wants his big city of glory and honour, no matter how much he kills and destroies any possibility of real social progress, rest of the mankind is not even mentioned as far as I remember, he just went full medieval.
That is a narrowly-minded thinking you have regarding the Legion. But then, I won't blame you since we didn't see much of the Legion aside from what they showed us in the frontier (How I wished Obsidian had more time to flesh out the Legion).

NCR think they are big old USA, think they can afford corruption and to please the interests of selfish elites. Do they care about the average citizen? No, obviously. They would only care about their population if they became a threat due some sort of revolution. Rest of humanity? Not even mentioned as far as I remember. Their small little world of corruption and greed and shallow weltanschauung is what makes impossible for them to do something for humanity.
Like many said in the game, the NCR only need better leadership that won't stretch them too thinly like Kimball and Oliver did. I kind of agreed with Avellone when he felt that the NCR got too big, that he initially wanted to make nuke the NCR in Lonesome Road as canon. The NCR need to gtfo of Mojave, retreat back to where they came from and mend themselves.

Thing is, there is no organization other then maybe the Followers of the Apocalypse that is really interested in the humanity and real progress that would affect a lot of people and has potential enough to revert the wasteland situation. Although all the three major factions claim they care about it, just look at what they do in their practice, they don't give a damn to humanity or real progress, this last one, when happens under their rule, is nothing but a mere consequence of their selfish acts, an accident. They are far too narrow minded and has way to big egos to do something significant for humanity as a whole.

All these three major powers needs to go, that would be the best outcome in my opinion. The difference between them are minimal and insignificant, and all are flawed in my opinion.
Eh, even though I haven't go down the NCR and the Legion route, I can see how both the NCR and the Legion can improve humanity in their own way. This is why I, and many others, love RPGs, like New Vegas. Every choices we make will have consequences, and mostly if we want it, it's the choices we want and the consequences we expected. You can't just go around saying 'this faction is bad', especially if you haven't even make direct contact and prolonged exposure to them to form a better, more proper opinion, instead of just conclude, 'Eh, they are evil.'
 
I don't see any reason why Mr. House "Must" help these "people". I enjoyed Mr. house and always sided with him after I explored all the routes and endings in the game.

Mr. House has a realistic perspective of the world around him and knows that wasting resources on a renewable resource like human beings won't put him into a better position in the long run. If anything if Mr. House did act the benevolent leader he would crush his own infrastructure and destabilize his position of equal power with the other factions.

Inaction does not indicate there is no plan, it is nothing more than a calculated decision for goals planned farther down the road.

At no point does Mr. House attempt to redefine his goals or promise peace on earth like the other factions do. The man stays firm on his objectives and does his utmost to ensure they are completed and when his plans fall through he is rightfully angered and worried. But even then he still manages to make things work out. (missing chip and saving the strip)

Comparatively to all other individuals in the wasteland Mr. House is the only realistic force of change that could if uninterupted have a lasting effect on the wasteland as a whole.
 
What about the people around him? How will he improve humanity on the wastes? How will he change the daily routine of the average person, not only on the wastes, but on the rest of the world? Will he send robots to China, help them rebuild humanity? What about Europe, Latin America? Who is this humanity that he is saving on those rockets? To me seems like he wants money, thats all. He will do what he can to make profit, thinking about it, why couldn't he eventualy even kill the courier, if he/she gets on his way?
SJW ALERT, SJW ALERT, LIBERTY PRIME REACTIVATING, ALL SJWS MUST BE ERADICATED

jokes aside
The NCR tried to take the approach you are espousing and it is failing for them, they are about to enter a food crisis, they are embroiled in a catastrophic Vietnam style scenario in the Mojave, and people are jumping off the sinking ship.
Once the ship is sunk, and the NCR just crumbles out a plethora of failures, food shortages, military humiliation and crisis, high taxes (most likely with a healthy dose of rebellion), the welfare state will collapse, so will the economy, jobs will disappear, and the NCR will have shoved 800,000 people in the toilet bowl.
None of these problems exist with Mr House, because of his small world approach, renovating Hoover dam, stabilising the New Vegas area, getting into space technology again, and making sure humanity is going in the right direction under competent leadership

Presumably House would raise the quality of life around the Strip significantly, as well as keeping the slavers to the East out of Vegas.
He seems to only care about Vegas so the other Mojave settlements will probably have a large amount of autonomy, they'll probably be left to figure stuff out for themselves but with economical and military support from House.
Izak is correct here, and I agree with him
I don't see any reason why Mr. House "Must" help these "people". I enjoyed Mr. house and always sided with him after I explored all the routes and endings in the game.

Mr. House has a realistic perspective of the world around him and knows that wasting resources on a renewable resource like human beings won't put him into a better position in the long run. If anything if Mr. House did act the benevolent leader he would crush his own infrastructure and destabilize his position of equal power with the other factions.

Inaction does not indicate there is no plan, it is nothing more than a calculated decision for goals planned farther down the road.

At no point does Mr. House attempt to redefine his goals or promise peace on earth like the other factions do. The man stays firm on his objectives and does his utmost to ensure they are completed and when his plans fall through he is rightfully angered and worried. But even then he still manages to make things work out. (missing chip and saving the strip)

Comparatively to all other individuals in the wasteland Mr. House is the only realistic force of change that could if uninterupted have a lasting effect on the wasteland as a whole.
This guy also makes an excellent point, and these are some of the reasons I chose House
 
Presumably House would raise the quality of life around the Strip significantly, as well as keeping the slavers to the East out of Vegas.
He seems to only care about Vegas so the other Mojave settlements will probably have a large amount of autonomy, they'll probably be left to figure stuff out for themselves but with economical and military support from House.
House would still needs money and work force, he needs to get that from somewhere. I doubt these places would have autonomy tbh. Perhaps a ilusion of autonomy, a stronger kind of ilusion then what NCR tryies to do, but just a ilusion anyways. In practice everyone would be working for Mr. House's major plan, that not necessarily includes helping the common people, but you can say that it could help them by accident. Anyways, I don't think he wants to do all that for mankind, really.

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Why should he care about the rest of the world? I smell SJW here. Everybody had their smarts and a chance to prepare for war. House is a genius and he did what he could to save the small part of the world around him, but that does not mean he is obliged to care about every human being on Erf. :smug:

Well, in my opinion it does, if he claims he is worried about humanity. Otherwise, I don't see how you could really care about mankind in a post apocalypse scenario and simply ignore everyone that is outside of your country borders, thing that doesn't even exist anymore if you think about it. What there is now in the world is only whats left of mankind, there is A LOT of humanity to restore on earth and Mr. House wants to go to space? Make New Vegas shine like the old times?

Selfish and useless in my opinion, just like Caesar but with technology. The space thing and New Vegas is his Rome. As I said, these three major factions, when they do something good for humanity its by accident. They happened to help mankind while pursuing their selfish interest, its not like they are really engaged in the task.

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Since its a big post, I'm gonna try doing this, god help us all
Mr. @Black Angel

Like I and Izak has said, Mr. House would eventually look up to improve the lives of the inhabitants of the Mojave. Otherwise, he wouldn't even bother to help the Three Families reform in the first place. And also, if he didn't even care, why would he wiped out the Kings and Primm when you let the NCR occupy Freeside and bring law to Primm? Okay, I'll concede when you brings up Westside and North Vegas Square, but even those 2 areas don't get much closure in the endings slide.

And also, like Goon said, Mr. House aren't really obliged to help the rest of Earth, BUT, if his plan is to work properly, especially since it is a really big plan, I see no reason for Mr. House to just keep everything in the Mojave, let alone just the Strip. If he really just want the money, well, why would he even bother spending so many caps just to find the Chip?
One could say that eventually the NCR would look up to improve the lives of the inhabitants of the Mojave, same for the Legion. Doesn't mean they will actually do it, and all of them gives us reasons to doubt that they will actually do it.

As I answered to Mr. Goon, I think that if he is really worried about mankind, he would be worried about how other places on earth are doing. He would try to join forces with other people like him that probably did the same thing he did for Vegas, there are probably other strong organizations around the globe that could even help him with his space program "for mankind".

But he doesn't do any of that and don't show interest in doing so, to me it looks like he wants to turn New Vegas into a technological country where he is the absolute master. Who gives a damn about what happens outside of the Mojave? I don't really think this posture is something you would see from someone really engaged in the cause of restoring mankind.
Eh, I'm not sure what do you mean by that? You say politics is what moves everything; and then went on to say Mr. House's actions and words are politics at its best, as if that's a bad thing?

Technological progress is what helps us solve many problems. Hunger, education, health, and transportation, all of that are easily solved with technological progress in the right direction. And then, housing problems and land distribution is probably gonna be a problem if humanity were ever to rise up once again, hence why Mr. House wants people to look up to the stars, where new opportunity awaits if humanity begin to be plagued with overpopulation, or famine like what we saw in Interstellar. I remember somewhere, maybe in NCR's Sharecropper Farms, that they complained how there were only very few food but too many mouths to feed.
Technological progress by itself is nothing, people need to have access to them so they actually means something. Will his technological progress alone going to help mankind overcome this post nuclear war situation? No. He needs to affect a lot of people, I mean, A LOT of people with his technological progress, if he did that then you could say that he helped mankind. Otherwise he is just building a insignificant technological country of ultimate gambling. Something like the Brotherhood of Steel, but with more alcohool and prostitution.

Eh, even though I haven't go down the NCR and the Legion route, I can see how both the NCR and the Legion can improve humanity in their own way. This is why I, and many others, love RPGs, like New Vegas. Every choices we make will have consequences, and mostly if we want it, it's the choices we want and the consequences we expected. You can't just go around saying 'this faction is bad', especially if you haven't even make direct contact and prolonged exposure to them to form a better, more proper opinion, instead of just conclude, 'Eh, they are evil.'

Oh no I'm not saying they are evil, I'm saying that they don't really care about mankind, none of the three. None of them are thinking on the majority of the people: poor as hell, with radiation, dying for weird animals and old time government experiments, under the rule of really unfair social economical systems etc. They say they do care about it, perhaps they even believe that they really care about humanity, but their practice and world view is way to limited to do something that would revert the situation.

At best, what they can do is make a big stupid class divided society that will eventualy clash with other big stupid class divided big society until we have another nuclear war. We need a class abolished society to end this circle! Like the Master suggested in F1.

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SJW ALERT, SJW ALERT, LIBERTY PRIME REACTIVATING, ALL SJWS MUST BE ERADICATED

jokes aside
The NCR tried to take the approach you are espousing and it is failing for them, they are about to enter a food crisis, they are embroiled in a catastrophic Vietnam style scenario in the Mojave, and people are jumping off the sinking ship.
Once the ship is sunk, and the NCR just crumbles out a plethora of failures, food shortages, military humiliation and crisis, high taxes (most likely with a healthy dose of rebellion), the welfare state will collapse, so will the economy, jobs will disappear, and the NCR will have shoved 800,000 people in the toilet bowl.
None of these problems exist with Mr House, because of his small world approach, renovating Hoover dam, stabilising the New Vegas area, getting into space technology again, and making sure humanity is going in the right direction under competent leadership


Izak is correct here, and I agree with him

This guy also makes an excellent point, and these are some of the reasons I chose House
Ah, I see NCR a bit differently. For me they are on a expansionist crusade to fill the pockets of their money hungry elites. This happens because someone in the past gave those who have money too much power, and now they probably control everything inside the NCR and use this machine for their own benefit. Thats NCR in a nutshell imo, thats whats causes them to fail so bad on so many areas. They have really bad priorities when you think about the whole wasteland situation. Seems like the ones who control NCR are not really interested in humanity.

NCR has the same problem that our pre-war world have imo: many resources that could be used to create a better life quality to people are used in stupid ways to create more profit. This happens because who owns the profit also owns the power to control society, and these people honestly doesn't seem to give a fuck about what goes around them, as long as their profit is good.
This is bound to fail sometime imo, there is no other way around. Especially when you think about the wasteland, where resources are REALLY scarce!

What a wall of text tbh, I'm really sorry lol
 
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One could say that eventually the NCR would look up to improve the lives of the inhabitants of the Mojave, same for the Legion. Doesn't mean they will actually do it, and all of them gives us reasons to doubt that they will actually do it.
That is..... some pessimism you got there, mate. Among the NCR and the Legion, there were exceptionally professional and resourceful individual. The Courier can be one of them. For example, the NCR has Chief Hanlon, and also Boone and Cass. The NCR's fault lies in their upper echelons, whom you refer as to corrupt. I won't deny when you called out NCR's corruption and decadence in that regard, but should the NCR find a way to get rid of those fuckers like Kimball and Oliver, they would eventually find a way to provide mankind a salvation. The NCR only need a kick to their ass so they return back to California and solve their internal problems first, before they would be ready to prove themselves worthy for mankind's salvation.

The Legion have Caesar, but the guy needs your help. From the way he wanted to make New Vegas his New Rome, he wanted his Legion to finally have a place to settle down. From there, we can assume he wanted to finally get rid the Legion's slaver lifestyle, and begin to treat women more properly, especially if you play as female Courier. This might be not really apparent in the ending slide, but.....eh, how I again wished that Obsidian had more time to flesh out the Legion.
The Legion also have Lanius, but the guy was really a monster. See the difference in the ending slides between whether or not you let Caesar die. However, if you face Lanius as an enemy, you know you can at least try to change him. No matter how monstrous he is, if you have the right skills, you can convince him he can't win Hoover Dam that day, a proof that at least a Legion would listen to reason, and the way you can see it he probably wanted to return back to where he came from and mend himself and the Legion.

As I answered to Mr. Goon, I think that if he is really worried about mankind, he would be worried about how other places on earth are doing. He would try to join forces with other people like him that probably did the same thing he did for Vegas, there are probably other strong organizations around the globe that could even help him with his space program "for mankind".

But he doesn't do any of that and don't show interest in doing so, to me it looks like he wants to turn New Vegas into a technological country where he is the absolute master. Who gives a damn about what happens outside of the Mojave? I don't really think this posture is something you would see from someone really engaged in the cause of restoring mankind.
To be fair, he did admit it would take quite sometime for his plan to work. Like many said, he's realistic. For a time being, he would focus mostly on improving the Mojave. And since his plan is big, like I said, he would eventually look up to begin expanding out of the Mojave. There's no reason for him to just keep everything in the Mojave. Money? That's no problem, the Strip is essentially his money making machine. You also said that eventually he would need working force. Well, that's why he probably would want to expand; or at least, establish a new contract/treaty with the NCR, maybe the Legion, heck with whatever major power out there in the post-apocalyptic North America, or eventually other places on Earth. Again, his plan is big, no way he would or could just keep it all in the Mojave, let alone in the Strip.

I can see why you think Mr. House would want to become the absolute master of the Mojave, but if you follow this thread, I'm going to agree with Ragemage when he said that the Free Economic Zone of New Vegas would most probably be ruled by a dual dictatorship, since the Courier having a say in pretty much all of Mr. House's plan. But for that to happen, you gotta be more specific when you play, and also has Good karma. And by specific, I mean you gotta prevent the NCR from intervening too much in the infrastructure of the Mojave (like letting them bring law and order to Primm and reconciling with the Kings).

Technological progress by itself is nothing, people need to have access to them so they actually means something. Will his technological progress alone going to help mankind overcome this post nuclear war situation? No. He needs to affect a lot of people, I mean, A LOT of people with his technological progress, if he did that then you could say that he helped mankind. Otherwise he is just building a insignificant technological country of ultimate gambling. Something like the Brotherhood of Steel, but with more alcohool and prostitution.
Well, I don't see Mr. House preventing access to technology. When Mr. House reformed the Three Families, he also allowed access to many of his resources he possessed in the Lucky 38, that includes whatever techs he stored in there. Hence why you see the Three Families live a life like that, from where else you thought the Three Families get access to the techs that helped them run the casinos?
If he didn't want to use techs to help people, while would he look up to, in 20 years, reignite the hi-tech development sector, and then in 50 years, have people living in the orbit?

Oh no I'm not saying they are evil, I'm saying that they don't really care about mankind, none of the three. None of them are thinking on the majority of the people: poor as hell, with radiation, dying for weird animals and old time government experiments, under the rule of really unfair social economical systems etc. They say they do care about it, perhaps they even believe that they really care about humanity, but their practice and world view is way to limited to do something that would revert the situation.

At best, what they can do is make a big stupid class divided society that will eventualy clash with other big stupid class divided big society until we have another nuclear war. We need a class abolished society to end this circle! Like the Master suggested in F1.
Again, that's a pessimism you have there. Both the NCR and the Legion has many exceptional and resourceful, if not really good-natured and kind, individual who wanted to see mankind rebuild and genuinely care for the people of the Mojave. Albeit flawed, they need some time to mend themselves.
Mr. House is but one man, but his genius and vision for mankind is something you wouldn't see in others. Hence why I and some here would argue that the FEZNV with Mr. House in the picture would most probably be the best ending for New Vegas, but you gotta be more specific in your playthrough when you support Mr. House.

Edit: Also, @Izak you were right. Hanlon did seen the Mojave as a lost cause. But he didn't word it exactly like that. It was mostly how he would say about the war with Vietnam. Good man and woman died every year for nothing. He also did have a not-so-high opinion of Mr. House, that New Vegas bleed the NCR's money and spirit dry, with the Legion bleed their blood. However, he did recognized the monstrosity of the Legion. I predicted that, fearing for the safety of NCR as a whole, he would rather help New Vegas stop the Legion right there in the Dam instead of seeing the Legion cross the river. The Legion was so big in comparison to New Vegas, that if the Legion also manage to mend themselves and get rid of their internal problems, they would be a force to be reckoned with even against New Vegas and Mark II Securitrons.
 
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@Black Angel

Very interesting points you make!

I was reading the thread you told me too, and I found this very interesting quote from Mr. @Ragemage:

"The main reason House doesn't share his wealth is because, at that point, he has no idea if his plans will even succeed. He needs the Platinum Chip, and until he has it, he has to hoard and spend money to look for it and retrieve it. As Yes Man says, Mr. House spent more than 800,000 caps just LOOKING for the Platinum Chip in a single YEAR. He's been looking for it for DECADES. That's millions upon millions of caps going into just finding the damn thing. Of course he hasn't spent money on anything besides Vegas, he was spending it all looking for the chip so he could save the Mojave."

Why does he needs a army of robots so bad? I mean, he seems to have all the money in the world. He can and in fact have a lot of influence in the Mojave without these robots and platinum chip. As you said, look at what he did to the three families and the strip.

This raises the question: if he has so much money and power already, why invest ridiculous amount of money in this platinum chip thing, when instead he could be investing in the Mojave and actually have a army of real people + his robots?

He could make every place great with all that money, he could hire a shitload of people to work for him, he could eventually grow up his politics and have a full State thing with an army, just like NCR. Instead, he invest everything in this bubble that is the strip, and the rest goes to technological progress that he claims he will use to help people. The thing is, he could already be helping people even before the Courier shows up, but he didn't. The amount of money that went into the platinum chip is evidence of his real interests imo, he could have made much better use of all that resource if he wanted to help the mojave imo.

I don't believe he NEEDS a huge robot army to help the Mojave. He could have done it in many different ways, he is very charismatic, inteligent and rich! He has very smart and talented people working for him (Benny, Courier, maybe more people that doesn't even show up in the game?), he could have a small army of people if he wanted too, I bet there are a shitton of mercenaries in the wastes, he could hire assassins, terrorists, researchers, farmers, police officers, teachers and eventually drop the mercenarie army and get a real army, hire people to rebuild freeside and perhaps even other smaller cities, hire more assassins and terrorists to deal with NCR and Legion etc.

Maybe it's me missing a point in the lore of the game, but why does he need the platinum chip and the robots so bad? Money itself open many more possibilities then robots
 
Maybe it's me missing a point in the lore of the game, but why does he need the platinum chip and the robots so bad? Money itself open many more possibilities then robots
House needs the chip in order to maximise his capabilities as well as his robots, he says that he fell into comas several times and that the chip would fix that.
Aside from that, House doesn't seem like the most trusting person, I think he'd like to have an unstoppable robot army that only answers to him, he's somewhat justified in this belief, after all 2 of the three families are planning to overthrow him already.
 
If you were to put yourself into Mr. Houses position I'm fairly certain that the chip would be high on your list of priorities. And since you cant shamble about under your own locomotion I think a robotic army acting as your prosthetic eyes, ears, arms, etc.. would be right up there as well.

Everyone is looking at Mr. Houses outward appearance but not the man himself. He may be a husk of a human jammed into a garbage compactor be he has the benefit the other humans in the wasteland don't. Experience and nothing but time to think.

For all intents and purposes Mr. House is like a organic computer determining the best options available coupled with the best plans of action with human interests in mind. The chances of him going off the rails since he hasn't already are surprisingly low as additional information and functionality is relayed to him.

If Caesar or anyone in power from the NCR were in that position they would most likely go insane. House however not only retained his sanity some how but forced himself to be as productive as possible given his circumstances. The man is a legit badass because no matter the circumstance he remains calm and collected.
 
That's a good question there you have, mate. But I'm gonna answer it in pieces, despite you literally only ask one question, so at least I can give you some points to eventually give you a conclusion as to why everything is the way they were with Mr. House. @Izak and @Einhanderc7 already made plausible points, so I'm going to add to that as I answer you in my own way.

Why does he needs a army of robots so bad? I mean, he seems to have all the money in the world. He can and in fact have a lot of influence in the Mojave without these robots and platinum chip. As you said, look at what he did to the three families and the strip.

This raises the question: if he has so much money and power already, why invest ridiculous amount of money in this platinum chip thing, when instead he could be investing in the Mojave and actually have a army of real people + his robots?
Basically what Izak and Einhanderc7 said. Not only the Chip would upgrade and optimize his Securitrons, but he also need it to upgrade his own OS. He might be already a badass as to not went insane without the Chip, but if he is to stay sane and not fell into another coma, he would've needed the Chip.

And then, as to why he didn't feel like getting more people to work for him, it's due to the political tension in the Mojave, and the stalemate he had with both the NCR and the Legion. If he were to, say, hire lots of mercenary, or tried to offer another chance of reform to the locals, no matter if it's in an immediate large number or smaller number slowly but surely, the NCR and the Legion would still immediately notice, anyway. People can be bribed, or even if not, they could still be consumed by greed and lust for power. Basically, Mr. House calculated the most basic human instinct into whether or not he should focus his resources into hiring more people to work with him, or just focus all of it into recovering the Platinum Chip that would eliminate the need for mercenaries or even hiring the NCR to police the Mojave. Heck, even as he calculated human nature into his plan, he still miscalculated with Benny, whom he planned to make his protege.
Basically, Mr. House knew that trying to hire more people while in such a political state with the NCR and the Legion probably aren't the best idea, since even like Izak said, 2 out of the 3 Families were already plotting against him (although the Chairmen didn't really count, unless you let Benny have his way with the Chip and didn't warn Swank). Even as he spend his resources to find the Chip, the NCR and the Legion already made their move to steer the people around him to work against him; or at least work for them. The NCR begin to flood the Freeside with their Squatter to try to find a way to get the locals to support them, though they can only succeed if you help them reconcile with the Kings. The Legion already succeeded in plotting with the Omertas by the time you arrive on the Strip. And then there's Benny, who adds more complication to Mr. House's goal.

He could make every place great with all that money, he could hire a shitload of people to work for him, he could eventually grow up his politics and have a full State thing with an army, just like NCR. Instead, he invest everything in this bubble that is the strip, and the rest goes to technological progress that he claims he will use to help people. The thing is, he could already be helping people even before the Courier shows up, but he didn't. The amount of money that went into the platinum chip is evidence of his real interests imo, he could have made much better use of all that resource if he wanted to help the mojave imo.
Him eventually focusing all of his resources into looking for the Chip was more of because the NCR were already marching from the west, while the Legion from the east. If he's to, say, have more than 7 years, or at least have more than 3 tribes agreed to reform and work for him, we would've probably not even see Freeside as it is. But, the reality is, he only had 7 years and 3 tribes working for him. By the time the NCR arrived in New Vegas proper, he can only accomplish so much. Note that, even with the help of the Three Families, Mr. House himself admitted that the NCR could've just wiped them all out and annexed the Strip forcefully; they didn't do that because they feared the Legion from the east. That's why they signed that first treaty to keep the Legion at bay. You may also ask why didn't Mr. House then focus on using his resources to help the people of Mojave immediately after the First Battle of Hoover Dam. I'll tell you: General Oliver, that's why. The idiot refused to listen to Chief Hanlon's advice to finish off the Legion. If only he would be at least clever enough to finish off the Legion right there, Mr. House probably would need to change his plan because, if only that were to happen, there is nothing to stand between the NCR and their annexing of the Strip, thus pushing Mr. House to change his plan.
But, the reality speaks otherwise. General Oliver proved himself an idiot and Mr. House saw it, hence he used the NCR's fear toward the Legion to get them police the Mojave, while Mr. House focused on finding the Chip (in secret, nonetheless) because the Legion coming back is the inevitable.

I don't believe he NEEDS a huge robot army to help the Mojave. He could have done it in many different ways, he is very charismatic, inteligent and rich! He has very smart and talented people working for him (Benny, Courier, maybe more people that doesn't even show up in the game?), he could have a small army of people if he wanted too, I bet there are a shitton of mercenaries in the wastes, he could hire assassins, terrorists, researchers, farmers, police officers, teachers and eventually drop the mercenarie army and get a real army, hire people to rebuild freeside and perhaps even other smaller cities, hire more assassins and terrorists to deal with NCR and Legion etc.

Maybe it's me missing a point in the lore of the game, but why does he need the platinum chip and the robots so bad? Money itself open many more possibilities then robots
And from my points up above, he did need the Securitron army to help the Mojave. Also, I'm not sure if he's really charismatic. He's secretively narcissist (as evidenced by an obituary written by himself that you can get when you kill him), while at the same time preferred to work in secrecy and in seclusion (the entire Mojave talked about how you are the only one to ever enter the Lucky 38, despite the fact that he wanted to make Benny his protege. I guess that was Mr. House mistake with Benny, he probably didn't show himself soon enough that Benny eventually betrayed him, so he learned from this mistake and immediately invited you into his penthouse to show that he trusted you and wanted to gain your trust as well).

And despite him having someone like us working for him, the NCR also has individuals of our own caliber (like Hanlon, although he's too old, and the veteran rangers from Baja), and the Legion has someone like Vulpes (though the guy was somehow pretty preoccupied with personal tasks given to him by Caesar) and Lanius (although he's too monstrous, but probably because he hasn't seen much of the Mojave to think of a better way on how to deal with it, unlike with the territory now belongs to the Legion). Benny prove to be unworthy for the position of Mr. House's protege, but like I guessed above it probably also due to House's mistake of not revealing himself soon enough to Benny to gain his trust.
 
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