Why Robert Edwin House is the best hope for the wasteland and humanity

Black Angel said:
1. Eh, Goodsprings was basically another demonstration of the fact that Gamebryo is a really shitty engine to handle more NPCs. Heck, the original Fallout creators also admit this fact that, in-game, you don't have to put realistic amount of population.
2. Primm? The ending slides says otherwise.
3. Correction, Squatters. If you notice, non-squatters were called Locals, so no refugees.
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1. No arguments there!
2. It depends on what ending slide you get.
3. Refer to your own argument at number 1.

Black Angel said:
Well, you asked for a summary of it. Again, I'd rather let you read the rest from the last 3-4 pages.
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True, but that would take a long time.

Black Angel said:
Maybe now that you are going to play a Mr. House run, you will see what I mean. Also, you need to take into consideration some of the cut content, like the one that allows you to solve Mr. House-BoS quest peacefully (can be restored), and also the one where we can persuade Mr. House to support the NCR (this one I don't know if it can be restored).
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Both can be restored, and I have both! But yeah probably.

Black Angel said:
I hope Hanlon will be. Although he didn't have a high opinion of Mr. House (he claimed the Strip drained the NCR's money and spirit), at least he wasn't clouded by an imperialistic mindset like Kimball and Oliver.

Or probably Crocker. Man, Crocker was actually a good guy. Unfortunately, if I'm not mistaken, something bad happened to Crocker if we solve Kings' Gambit peacefully, because Colonel Moore didn't like it.
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Nup, he's not going to be. I severely doubt it. Crocker was okay, but yeah Colonel Moor is a bitch.
 
Dr Fallout said:
2. It depends on what ending slide you get.
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Which means it's still possible for Primm to stay exist, and even prosper, right?

Dr Fallout said:
True, but that would take a long time.
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Don't be lazy, Doc.

Dr Fallout said:
Both can be restored, and I have both! But yeah probably.
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Hot damn..

Dr Fallout said:
Nup, he's not going to be. I severely doubt it. Crocker was okay, but yeah Colonel Moor is a bitch.
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Aww, too bad Hanlon's too old...
 
Black Angel said:
Which means it's still possible for Primm to stay exist, and even prosper, right?
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It is, depending on what you get. I still doubt it will prosper though.

Black Angel said:
Don't be lazy, Doc.
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Docters are inherently lazy. It's a fact.

Black Angel said:
Aww, too bad Hanlon's too old...
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I don't really like him, defeatist shit.

Black Angel said:
Yeah, I just tried to search for it, and still not getting it. @Dr Fallout care to help us, Doc?
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Coming right up... I'm going have to scour the Nexus forums quest mods so it will take me some time. But I swear I saw a fix on it.
 
Dr Fallout said:
It is, depending on what you get. I still doubt it will prosper though.
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Why? Goodsprings just up north prospered and thrived if you go Mr. House or Independent. Why not Primm? Hell, even Mr. New Vegas referred to Primm as the 'other New Vegas'. Well, basically budget Vegas. Johnson Nash also runs the trading business, and also owned the entirety of Mojave Express. I don't see why wouldn't they prosper?

Dr Fallout said:
Docters are inherently lazy. It's a fact.
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But my Father ain't lazy, so it's not a fact :scratch:

Dr Fallout said:
I don't really like him, defeatist shit.
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Eh, considering how Oliver treated him and his rangers, I can at least understand why he act and think like that.

Dr Fallout said:
Coming right up... I'm going have to scour the Nexus forums quest mods so it will take me some time. But I swear I saw a fix on it.
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Hmm, Risewild's friends are working on, basically, New Vegas Restoration Project (or something like that). It will be merging the many cut content mods that's already on the Nexus, and also some others still not restored (if I'm not mistaken). Hopefully it will be included in there, and also the Legion's cut content.
 
Black Angel said:
Why? Goodsprings just up north prospered and thrived if you go Mr. House or Independent. Why not Primm? Hell, even Mr. New Vegas referred to Primm as the 'other New Vegas'. Well, basically budget Vegas. Johnson Nash also runs the trading business, and also owned the entirety of Mojave Express. I don't see why wouldn't they prosper?
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Goodsprings only thrived if you went independent. The other New Vegas isn't a burnt out wreck from gangers.

Black Angel said:
But my Father ain't lazy, so it's not a fact :scratch:
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Well... um... I'm running out of excuses!

Black Angel said:
Eh, considering how Oliver treated him and his rangers, I can at least understand why he act and think like that.
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Me too, though I don't like how he tries to undermine the NCR. People can die from that.

Black Angel said:
Hmm, Risewild's friends are working on, basically, New Vegas Restoration Project (or something like that). It will be merging the many cut content mods that's already on the Nexus, and also some others still not restored (if I'm not mistaken). Hopefully it will be included in there, and also the Legion's cut content.
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Really? That's cool!
 
Dr Fallout said:
Goodsprings only thrived if you went independent. The other New Vegas isn't a burnt out wreck from gangers.
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They thrived if you went Mr. House too. The only difference is there's Victor in the picture, and I don't see how Victor's gonna hinder Goodsprings from thriving.

And at least Primm still have functioning casino, Mojave Express still stand, and so does many of its' residents's houses. But it's disappointing that we can't do anything for the Bison Steve's.

Dr Fallout said:
Well... um... I'm running out of excuses!
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Don't have any? You expect me to believe that, maggot? The truth is, you lost, an expensive piece of excuse. That excuse is going to come out of your pay, and you will remain in this discussion until the new Obsidian/inXile Fallout/Post-Apocalyptic RPG came out, which is the number of time, it will take for you, to pay for an excuse you have lost! Report to the armory and have a new excuse issued to you, and then report back to me, Doc! Dismissed!

Dr Fallout said:
Me too, though I don't like how he tries to undermine the NCR. People can die from that.
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Eh, to be fair, people are already dying since Oliver fucked up. Hanlon's deed were to stir unrest and push Oliver, Kimball, and Moore to just stop and pull back so no more die.
 
Black Angel said:
They thrived if you went Mr. House too. The only difference is there's Victor in the picture, and I don't see how Victor's gonna hinder Goodsprings from thriving.

And at least Primm still have functioning casino, Mojave Express still stand, and so does many of its' residents's houses. But it's disappointing that we can't do anything for the Bison Steve's.
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But it doesn't mention they thrive at all.

True and true. Umm, mods?

Black Angel said:
Don't have any? You expect me to believe that, maggot? The truth is, you lost, an expensive piece of excuse. That excuse is going to come out of your pay, and you will remain in this discussion until the new Obsidian/inXile Fallout/Post-Apocalyptic RPG came out, which is the number of time, it will take for you, to pay for an excuse you have lost! Report to the armory and have a new excuse issued to you, and then report back to me, Doc! Dismissed!
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NIEN!!! NEIN!!!

Black Angel said:
Eh, to be fair, people are already dying since Oliver fucked up. Hanlon's deed were to stir unrest and push Oliver, Kimball, and Moore to just stop and pull back so no more die.
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Which would have failed. The NCR NEED Hoover Damn.
 
Dr Fallout said:
The NCR NEED Hoover Dam
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Do they though? NCR was doing fine before they reached Vegas, seems like they should rework their own infrastructure before trying to take foreigners stuff, which is what Hanlon believes clearly.
 
Izak said:
Do they though? NCR was doing fine before they reached Vegas, seems like they should rework their own infrastructure before trying to take foreigners stuff, which is what Hanlon believes clearly.
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Yes, the NCR get's most of it's power from the Dam. They should, but that would be risky as the NCR rely on the dam a lot. It's why they can make peace with House but not the Legion.
 
Dr Fallout said:
Yes, the NCR get's most of it's power from the Dam. I like dick. They should, but that would be risky as the NCR rely on the dam a lot. It's why they can make peace with House but not the Legion.
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Also, the legion clearly disapproves of many of the ncrs practices. That's another reason they can't make peace. Their values are different as well. There's more provoking a conflict than just the dam
 
R.Graves said:
Also, the legion clearly disapproves of many of the ncrs practices. That's another reason they can't make peace. Their values are different as well. There's more provoking a conflict than just the dam
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I know, but Caesar is smart enough to avert conflict if he has to. But he wants Vegas.
 
R.Graves said:
Also, the legion clearly disapproves of many of the ncrs practices. That's another reason they can't make peace. Their values are different as well. There's more provoking a conflict than just the dam
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Caesar does have plans to emulate parts of the NCR once he takes Vegas so if he wins maybe they could begin a diplomatic relationship, assuming Lanius doesn't tear NCR up.
 
Dogtown is full of rabid dogs and Flagstaff doesn't have any infrastructure, you have to remember that those cities were nuked to shit while Vegas stayed relatively untouched.
 
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