If only he had an anime avatar...
Muuuuuuuslim Baaaaaan! But don't call it that!
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That is just bullshit to be honest, even if the Qur'an say homosexuals should be stoned to death most muslin countries with it in the law don't actually kill people unless it is militias or extremists and not the normal citizen or police forces. Also stoning adulterers is not prescribed in the current version of the Quran.
Since you like stats so much here have fun:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-13/how-muslim-countries-treat-homosexuals
I will quote a little bit of this report, please read the rest if you're interested:
Do you realize that if muslins were killing people all the time there wouldn't be muslins anymore, and yet a quarter of the world population is muslin. If they are so barbaric and kill so many of their own how come there are so many of them?
You quoted this:
But you seem to not understand that it is only a minority of muslin people who act barbaric and murderous. Most are not savage people that would kill everyone they see that doesn't follow their religion. If it was a majority then it would be a war zone pretty much everywhere since many countries have a large quantity of muslin people living in them. Yes there are assholes that make terrorist attacks and kill people and those are definitely barbaric and savage, but those are the minority just like hooligans are the minority of the UK population.
i don't know why I write this because you will just read it (if I am lucky) and then dismiss it because your mind is set on stone and doesn't matter what anyone say you will always think all muslins are savages.
Jogre
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
How 'bout you post the stats if you want to make a point, rather than expecting us to sort through posts from over a year ago posted by a now banned member.
CT Phipps
Carbon Dated and Proud
The Bible also has some messed up shit.
The idea Muslims are some kind of weird monolithic hive mind like the Borg is an idea I really wonder about because it's so prevalent and so....stupid. I mean, do most people realize Muslims are predominantly Asian? That Iranians are white people? That there's hundreds of variants?
Sheesh.
There's some fucked up human rights violating Muslim countries but that isn't the reason for this ban.
Just to be clear, Vergil wasn't just an "ironic" (whatever the fuck that means) Nazi but an actual honest-to-God, Holocaust denying Neo-Nazi right?
This is the guy people actually wanted to turn to for information?
The idea Muslims are some kind of weird monolithic hive mind like the Borg is an idea I really wonder about because it's so prevalent and so....stupid. I mean, do most people realize Muslims are predominantly Asian? That Iranians are white people? That there's hundreds of variants?
Sheesh.
There's some fucked up human rights violating Muslim countries but that isn't the reason for this ban.
Just to be clear, Vergil wasn't just an "ironic" (whatever the fuck that means) Nazi but an actual honest-to-God, Holocaust denying Neo-Nazi right?
This is the guy people actually wanted to turn to for information?
Jogre
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
He claimed he was being ironic, but given that he seemed to know an awful lot about which ethnic groups Hitler claimed were "Honorary Aryans", and debated for pages and pages about why Muslims/Black People can never count as any European nationalities, one has to wonder.
He never openly admitted being a Nazi - but yes, he was all the other things you mentioned. To be fair, I don't think he admitted to himself that he is a Nazi. Seemed like a troubled person when you look more into the shit he was posting.
CT Phipps
Carbon Dated and Proud
Wear a mask long enough and don't be surprised if people start to think it's your face.
Either way, the fact he did claim that (jest or not) and forwarded plenty of Nazi symbolism and talking points makes me comfortable with giving him my response to all such individuals - I have no interest in anything they have to say about anything.
From Trump to climate change to whether water is wet.
Either way, the fact he did claim that (jest or not) and forwarded plenty of Nazi symbolism and talking points makes me comfortable with giving him my response to all such individuals - I have no interest in anything they have to say about anything.
From Trump to climate change to whether water is wet.
joevonzombie
Buried alive in Golgotha
Why can't folks just admit they backed the wrong horse? No one's going to think less of you if you do. Quite the contrary actually.
No, of course isn't. How dare you to even mention it? Such a person, as misguided as he is, is always an individual that has to be seen, treated and persecuted as individual by a just society. I mean he's not a muslim! Everyone knows the Muslims are like the Bork. What one Muslim does or thinks, is always representative for them as a whole.
Aaaaaand we're back again to that "Which world/society is more hypocritical" game.
Seriously now, I am sick and tired of this game. I had the fortune to grow up with many different comunities. And you know what? Assholes exist eveywhere. Does it really matter if it's writen worse in that book or this religious text? What matters is what we 'do' with it. If you look at it, no Muslim nation has used nuclear weapons to this day. No Muslim nation has started world wars in the last 100 years. Which muslim nation has in the last 60 years attacked, bombed and interfered with western governments?
let us be realistic here for a second, and actually look at the numbers, because you guys really love them it seems, when it proves that muslims and islam is about genocides on western people.
Answer this, how many western people (Europeans, Americans etc.) have died since 2001 and compare that to the number of muslims that died either directly or indirectly trough European and American military inventions like the war on terror, the war and occupation in Afghanistan and Iraq, and tell me again which civilisation is the more 'barbaric' one. Call me what ever you want, but at this point I would say they have every right to 'hate' us, to really hate us. Because if the situation was reversed, we would have already nuked them all leaving nothing but a radiactive wasteland behind if a nation like Iran would have done as much like sending even one rocket or fighter plane in the direction of the United States.
I am so sick of this fucked up hypocrisy that lead to the US bombing Serbia to kingdom come for so called "democracy" and "human rights", while it is possible that the reason they used to justify the bombings was never completely investigated and left many open questions.
I experienced first hand, what it means when people blame you for shit that your nation did and where you have to explain your self simply because it happens that your parents are Serbian. And how sick and tired you can be because every idiot who can barely hold and read a newspaper thinks he is an expert on foreign policy and the nation of your parents, despite the fact that you grew up in a different nation, speaking their langugage and going trough their education system. And I had the luck that I can talk German without any accent and that I actually look like a German. I don't want to imagine how it must be for someone who's actually a black Somalian. And people are surprised why some can't 'assimilate' into the European society even though they are the children and even grand children of immigrants.
As much as I love Germany, but that day, during the Kosovo war, I learned first hand what 'western' ideals really mean and how much the media can lie if you're not ACTIVELY looking for the informations by your self. And we can see that every fucking day when we look how they treat the people on the Balkan that suffer in those shitty shacks, in winter. What happend to all those big promises about the Kosovo? The state is a fucking ruin today with 70% of the young are unemployed, barely any education or economy to support the people. And than we act surprise if such nations fall under radical regimes?
By the way, do you know how many Syrians actually invented the gadgeds that you use? Do you own an Apple phone? Go and google where Steve Jobs father was from.
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Throatpunch
Banned
Yeah I read none of this.
Anyway I cant find it and I will edit in all the stats Vergil had later.
Watch this in the meantime:
Ah, finally some new PJW/Infowars posts. Hadn't had a laugh in a while.
People often complain about fake news being such a problem, but actually the half-fake news are a much larger issue in my opinion, like some of the stuff you can see on Inforwars or Breitbard, where the issue isn't that they tell necessarily lies, but the way how the information are given out and what information are actually left out - something that you also see with Fox, CNN, MSNBC, CBS you name it, pretty much everyone is doing that. We're all living in our bubble of confirmation bias.
Dude, Vergil was at least original and Illuminaty Confirmed had some entertainment value. You're nothing like them.
T
TorontoReign
Guest
Word. You are showing your age dude. If this place is so bad then get the fuck out.
Juza The Cloud
Nanto Goshasei
People often complain about people often complaining about fake news.
CT Phipps
Carbon Dated and Proud
I come from this obnoxiously reductive perspective:
* Theocracies bad
* Freedom of religion good
* Refugees are usually fleeing bad people
* Bad people are bad
* Immigration bans are rarely about reasons given for them
* Trump solutions stupid but sell to people who don't want to think about them
ISIS is a totalitarian dictatorship and the country they've established is a rape, murder, and horror show.
ISIS is not Islam.
Islam is most of the world which isn't Christian and if you go to most of the world, a lot of it is a shitshow but there's also incredibly nice places too. It's sort of like Homeland where the protagonists go to famous Muslim capitals and they're all fundamentalist Call of Duty stealth levels shouting Down With America and then you compare them to the reality which is covered in McDonalds and women in shorts. Saudi Arabia is a totalitarian hellhole but the funny thing is that's the place we've propped up continuously against more moderate neighbors it has funded the overthrow of.
Here's a wayback article on American perception:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/post...ed-show-on-television/?utm_term=.160396966ad8
"Thoseeee people don't share our values" is kind of a bullshit excuse when most of America doesn't share my values.
But even so, even so, as nasty as America can be, my only real problem with the Muslim ban because democracy says most people want to be ignorant fucknuts so let them, the ban could AT LEAST let the people who helped America fight ISIS and their families through. Interpreters, rebels, and you know the people who have SHED BLOOD FOR US. Let them and their families in.
Those people are the ones usually trying to immigrate to America. Why? Because Obama wasn't letting anyone in anyway and these people were promised a pass so they wouldn't be murdered along with their loved ones. 15,000 or so people were let in of those and that's nothing.
And those are the ones directly getting the door slammed in their face.
* Theocracies bad
* Freedom of religion good
* Refugees are usually fleeing bad people
* Bad people are bad
* Immigration bans are rarely about reasons given for them
* Trump solutions stupid but sell to people who don't want to think about them
ISIS is a totalitarian dictatorship and the country they've established is a rape, murder, and horror show.
ISIS is not Islam.
Islam is most of the world which isn't Christian and if you go to most of the world, a lot of it is a shitshow but there's also incredibly nice places too. It's sort of like Homeland where the protagonists go to famous Muslim capitals and they're all fundamentalist Call of Duty stealth levels shouting Down With America and then you compare them to the reality which is covered in McDonalds and women in shorts. Saudi Arabia is a totalitarian hellhole but the funny thing is that's the place we've propped up continuously against more moderate neighbors it has funded the overthrow of.
Here's a wayback article on American perception:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/post...ed-show-on-television/?utm_term=.160396966ad8
"Thoseeee people don't share our values" is kind of a bullshit excuse when most of America doesn't share my values.
But even so, even so, as nasty as America can be, my only real problem with the Muslim ban because democracy says most people want to be ignorant fucknuts so let them, the ban could AT LEAST let the people who helped America fight ISIS and their families through. Interpreters, rebels, and you know the people who have SHED BLOOD FOR US. Let them and their families in.
Those people are the ones usually trying to immigrate to America. Why? Because Obama wasn't letting anyone in anyway and these people were promised a pass so they wouldn't be murdered along with their loved ones. 15,000 or so people were let in of those and that's nothing.
And those are the ones directly getting the door slammed in their face.
MojaveMoproblems
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Let us talk about hate crimes, since apparently all mooslims are doing them guis
us mericans cant be biased or hateful to other peeple rite?
olroit guis les look at sum hat crames stats
dem mooselims must be veri mean to be attacked for no reeeeson
rite?
they must all be craminals rite
well i found dis prisoner report from a federal prison and it reported this
most of dem are protestant
oh
mooslim isnt 100 percent bad
whot aboot that mosque shooting that happened last night right up in canada, 6 dead, 8 injured. Not the first time they was attacked either. This comes from the NY Times,
Last June, a pig’s head was left at the door of the mosque in the middle of Ramadan. Practicing Muslims regard pork as unclean and do not eat it.
well.
maybe mooslim doesnt deserve the hate they be gettin rn
if you honestly believe that Muslim people deserve this then you are a piece of shit and deserve a penis inside of your anal cavity, and not for pleasure. I mean like a big hillbilly named big bobby forcibly tying you up in his basement and raping you giving you a big ol bloody anus afterwards man.
us mericans cant be biased or hateful to other peeple rite?
olroit guis les look at sum hat crames stats
- 52.1 percent were victims of crimes motivated by their offenders’ anti-Jewish bias.
- 21.9 percent were victims of anti-Islamic (Muslim) bias.
- 4.3 percent were victims of anti-Catholic bias.
- 4.1 percent were victims of bias against groups of individuals of varying religions (anti-multiple religions, group).
- 3.6 percent were victims of anti-Eastern Orthodox (Russian, Greek, Other) bias.
- 3.4 percent were victims of anti-Protestant bias.
- 1.3 percent were victims of anti-Other Christian bias.
- 0.6 percent were victims of anti-Mormon bias.
- 0.4 percent were victims of anti-Hindu bias.
- 0.4 percent were victims of anti-Sikh bias.
- 0.1 percent were victims of anti-Jehovah’s Witness bias.
- 0.1 percent were victims of anti-Buddhist bias.
- 0.1 percent were victims of anti-Atheist/Agnostic bias.
- 7.6 percent were victims of bias against other religions (anti-other religion).
dem mooselims must be veri mean to be attacked for no reeeeson
rite?
they must all be craminals rite
well i found dis prisoner report from a federal prison and it reported this
most of dem are protestant
oh
mooslim isnt 100 percent bad
whot aboot that mosque shooting that happened last night right up in canada, 6 dead, 8 injured. Not the first time they was attacked either. This comes from the NY Times,
Last June, a pig’s head was left at the door of the mosque in the middle of Ramadan. Practicing Muslims regard pork as unclean and do not eat it.
well.
maybe mooslim doesnt deserve the hate they be gettin rn
if you honestly believe that Muslim people deserve this then you are a piece of shit and deserve a penis inside of your anal cavity, and not for pleasure. I mean like a big hillbilly named big bobby forcibly tying you up in his basement and raping you giving you a big ol bloody anus afterwards man.
CT Phipps
Carbon Dated and Proud
I don't agree with about 90% of what John Oliver says but he was dead on with this bit.
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You know what the real joke is? Afghanistan was recently declared a "safe nation" by the German state, so that a lot of people from Afghanistan could be send back there.
Safe my ass. Why are German soldiers still there if it is safe?
Some member in our Parliament made the comment, how we can now cynically test how safe the nation is, since they have send already 30 people back, at the end of the year we can take a look at how many of them are still alive. And the fun part is, quite a few of the people we send back, could be considered as well integrated citizens.
No one deserves this kind of hate, regardless if we talk about Scientology, Muslims or reformed Chrstians. That's the point. You don't run around defending your democratic values like religious freedom, freedom of spech etc. by attacking muslims. You engage in debates, giving out arguments, talking to individuals, not treating individuals like groups.
And when you say people that, you are kinda treated like you want the Shariah law or that you defend people that want it.
Safe my ass. Why are German soldiers still there if it is safe?
Some member in our Parliament made the comment, how we can now cynically test how safe the nation is, since they have send already 30 people back, at the end of the year we can take a look at how many of them are still alive. And the fun part is, quite a few of the people we send back, could be considered as well integrated citizens.
No one deserves this kind of hate, regardless if we talk about Scientology, Muslims or reformed Chrstians. That's the point. You don't run around defending your democratic values like religious freedom, freedom of spech etc. by attacking muslims. You engage in debates, giving out arguments, talking to individuals, not treating individuals like groups.
And when you say people that, you are kinda treated like you want the Shariah law or that you defend people that want it.
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CT Phipps
Carbon Dated and Proud
The thing about the Muslim Ban kind of exemplifies a lot of my worries about the next four years. It's not that I disagree with it, but I do, or the fact I hate the man doing it, I do though, but it's the fact it was clearly just enacted by fiat.
People getting detained, which is a lot bigger issue than just refusing them citizenship
No exceptions for previous promises
No exceptions for green cards
Weird choices of countries to ban
It's arbitrary as it would ban an atheist Iranian political dissident than a secret police member
It's a BADLY MADE law even if it's awful.
People getting detained, which is a lot bigger issue than just refusing them citizenship
No exceptions for previous promises
No exceptions for green cards
Weird choices of countries to ban
It's arbitrary as it would ban an atheist Iranian political dissident than a secret police member
It's a BADLY MADE law even if it's awful.