Russia attacks Ukraine

Gue$$ when a civil war becomes American. All those border countries you listed, use your springer spaniels to tally the dollar amount they have contributed to Ukraine vs what America has given(laundered). I'd love to see it!

There is a reason Cuba is stuck in the 50's, and that is entirely because they are on our border. We averted WWIII by embargoing them so hard that they can't progress at all. Now let's take a hypothetical that Rooskies build a full AFB in Cuba. Do you think the U.S. would not use direct force in that situation? Do you see the double standard here?

What specific threats was Russia making to those countries Zegh? Threats of force? Hmm... I know of another country that does the same exact thing all over the globe. Again, double standards.

territorial concessions... and no, we're not giving up any land.
 
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He's gone full blown "maga communism" (yes, it's real believe it or not).

@donperkan Honest question: What is the source of your support for Russia in this situation? Do you think that either Ukraine, or Europe will be better off if Russia wins? Do you support Russia because of multipolarity, or simply because you see Russia as the defender against US interference and so they have no choice? Basically you're not against Ukraine specifically, but against US intervention which leads to supporting Russia against Ukraine?

I remember reading about this guy, but I've forgotten a lot of it since then. You're making me have to read stuff again :slap:
 
A civil war doesn't become American, just because Americans take note of it.
Absolutely right! The civil war in Vietnam between the north and the south has nothing to do with America. The civil war in Cambodia, did not arouse any interest in America. The civil war in Korea. The civil war in Iraq and the emergence of ISIS have nothing to do with the United States. The civil war in Afghanistan is the same. The civil war in Yugoslavia passed unnoticed by America. What else is there? Syria? And of course, Ukraine is of no interest to America at all. That is why there is no lend lease, and the new president Trump has not said anything about this conflict. And imagine if he suddenly promised to end the war in a day, or at least in six months? Fantasies, dreams, conspirology.
 
Do you know who would be on the receiving end of those shiny new weapons if the russian army didnt intervene?

Zelensky never believed in peace agreements and was quietly preparing for a new war. He just didn’t expect Russia to attack openly; he hoped for a proxy war through Donbass.
 
You're really making up your own little stories and narratives? Cute. Russias invasion is still not justified. It is what it is.
You are trying to play with near-moral categories. In order to talk about the justification of military actions, you must be an active combatant and fight for the Motherland, and not be an armchair analyst. And if you suddenly decided that I am trying to justify the invasion in eyes of Nazis, then you are clearly mistaken. The war will continue as long as the pseudo-state of Ukraine exists.
 
What do you mean by "pseudo-state"? All states are made up.
When state X has a whole region or several regions in which 90% do not recognize X's jurisdiction, even with the support of international organizations. If X cannot suppress separatism in these regions even with the help of military force, X is a pseudo-state in relation to the rebellious regions.
 
Plot twist: Russians crossed the border 6 months after americans decided to pick a side in a civil war.
We made sure that well before the Russian aggression happened, starting in September — the Russian aggression happened in February — starting in September, and then again in December, we quietly got a lot of weapons to Ukraine to make sure that they had in hand what they needed to defend themselves. Things like Stingers, Javelins that they could use that were instrumental in preventing Russia from taking Kyiv from rolling over the country, erasing it from the map and indeed pushing the Russians back.
Do you know who would be on the receiving end of those shiny new weapons if the russian army didnt intervene?
Literally the only available source for this supposed quote is infobrics.org which names its source as... infobrics.org. How convenient. Infobrics is a disinformation website run by InfoRos, which is in turn run by a Russian military intelligence agency.

Edit: after some digging I found the NYT interview with Blinken.
 
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When state X has a whole region or several regions in which 90% do not recognize X's jurisdiction, even with the support of international organizations. If X cannot suppress separatism in these regions even with the help of military force, X is a pseudo-state in relation to the rebellious regions.

lol "that state is totally made up, here - I'm going to totally make up definitions for an actual state!"
 
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