Black Angel
Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus
This is false. I said = flooding the local's space. They maybe legit NCR's citizens, but when they illegally occupy the local's space, they are called Squatters. Big difference. Besides, the NCR's territory are pretty big. It doesn't makes sense why would they wanted to immigrate and occupy the Mojave, especially with the on-going conflict with the Legion.
Mr. House predicted that there would be a significant increase in tourism to New Vegas. The ending slides for the Followers is the proof of that. How else could the Old Mormon Fort 'became excessively burdened by the influx of patients', if not for an increase of population around New Vegas proper, if not for an increase in tourism to Mojave?
Again, they would only incur riots and uprising from their own citizen. Just look at them, carelessly visiting New Vegas despite an on-going conflict with the Legion. Imagine now that the conflict has been resolved, even more people would look forward to finally visit 'a city untouched by the warheads that had scorched the rest of the world, and a great wall spanning the Colorado River.' Besides, it was already stated that the Mojave campaign was pretty unpopular with the folks back west (basically, Vietnam 2.0), that most of the NCR citizen at home just want the war to be over, without caring who's win. Maybe as long as the Legion didn't win, they don't care.
False. The Mojave Wasteland were largely intact because most of the nuclear warhead didn't make it, hence most of the wildlife continued to flourish, providing the inhabitants with foraging and agricultural opportunity. Heck, the independent settlements across the Mojave even gets to farm their own food. Plenty of water from Lake Mead and Colorado River, and also Goodsprings source.
Well, you did insisted that Mr. House relied on 'Immigrants'. That's not 100% right. If you say 'Tourists', okay I agree. Squatters, however, are unwanted. Anyway, I don't see how the NCR can prevent their own citizens from visiting New Vegas. Remember, the NCR's territory are too big, and the political structure of their ruling council allows for each of the representative of each cities to pursue their own agenda. While they seemed to eventually gets united in their voice of denouncing Kimball and Oliver when Hanlon called them out, we have no idea how they are going to deal with New Vegas in the future. I don't see how could they unite in preventing their own citizens and trades from ever entering the Mojave. It's just too unrealistic even in the world of Fallout. Those water and electricity are, like I've said, too much to let go to try haggling any further with Mr. House.
Yeah, Happy Trails are a part of the NCR. But the Happy Trails also are in competition with Crimson Caravan, the absolutely biggest merchant company in the NCR. Remember, the Happy Trails can't travel to Zion and beyond without passing through the Mojave. It would be a great deal of profit for the Happy Trails to set up an office somewhere in New Vegas proper, especially if they get bullied by the NCR to stop entering the Mojave.
Goodsprings are self-sufficient in water and food, hence why they prosper when the conflict ends, especially if we go Independent or support Mr. House. With the conflict over, any faction controlling the Dam can now focus their resources to clean up the roads around the Mojave, and that means also the passage north of Goodsprings to ease travel between the Outpost and New Vegas proper. Primm, okay, they need a steady flow of tourists, but they also have the headquarter of the Mojave express, thus providing courier service. Novac got lots of junks and spare parts for sale, especially if you solve Repconn Test Site problem.
Well, they better present something equal in the deal for more energy and more resources. Again, I see no reason and no way they can just prevent their citizens and trades to enter the Mojave. Also, now that I think about it, even without the NCR's tourists flowing to New Vegas, Mr. House still managed to rebuild it. The NCR's tourism are only there to provide Mr. House with profits. If he wanted to rebuild New Vegas without the help and profit from the NCR, he can still do it, since, like I said, the Mojave was actually pretty self-sufficient with all those water sources from Lake Mead, Colorado River, and Goodsprings sources. Any settlements can thus farm their own food, coupled with the fact that most of the Mojave was intact and no difference from what it was in pre-War, and then there's also the power from the Dam, the Mojave can still rebuild. Albeit, of course, the progress would slow down, without the profit generated from NCR's tourism and trades with New Vegas.
Also, how would they even try to set up another attempt of occupation, after having their ass handed to them, while simultaneously denounced imperialistic mindset?
Oh, but that still didn't deny Mr. House's business acumen. Think about it, the NCR still wanted to annex New Vegas, but they have more urgent problem in the Dam. If they didn't get to agree with New Vegas Treaty, they would be greeted with hostilities from the surrounding locals (especially those who worked with Mr. House). Heck, years after the First Battle, the locals are still irritated by their presence. Since they wanted to annex New Vegas, they need to set up bases around it. It was only thanks to Mr. House, that they would be able to set up Camp McCarran and Embassy on the Strip. Otherwise, they can't.
If Mr. House really a better liar, he shouldn't have been able to actually reform those three tribes, and then letting them drown in caps. Seriously, he didn't made up any mirage. He admitted himself that the NCR can wipe them out, and the NCR knew it. However, if that happens, the NCR would be left vulnerable, and exposed to the Legion to finish them off. Hence, like I said, business acumen. He 100% fully realized they are no match for the NCR, with NCR knowing it, but if they fight right there the NCR would be left vulnerable to be finished off by the Legion, so Mr. House instead convinced them to work together with him, letting them to set up bases around New Vegas and occupying the Dam, in return for letting NCR's citizens visiting New Vegas and other kind of supply and demand.
This is false. Like have been said, the rest of the Boot Riders actually wanted to work for Mr. House. Since they are offered 3 choices, they can still leave if they want to, as the current chief wanted to stay nomadic. And like I said, it wasn't actual force, but rather show of force. Mr. House already kindly showed up only one Securitrons, but since he wasn't taken seriously, he had no choices but to use show of force. If he really did use force, he would've shoot first, talk later. But that's not the case! He showed up with more Securitrons, but he talks first, before resorting to shooting (if the Boot Riders didn't leave), hence show of force.
Show of force. If it was actual force, he would've shoot first, talk later. And it wasn't only Securitrons that put him in a good footing in the face of the NCR: There were also the Three Families, and then there were also the Legion baring their teeth from the East. Using all these fact, Mr. House set up the New Vegas Treaty with the NCR.
And how do you think the NCR begin their dealings? The Legion? It's a post-apocalyptic world, for fuck sake. If he really did use force 'everywhere', he would've come to the Tops, shooting everyone and Benny because of the Chip, and also to Gomorrah because the Omertas plotted against him.
Actually, you have to take into consideration that, most people back home have sons, daughters, fathers, mothers, husband, wife, fighting in the front line. Do you ever have a feeling of waiting at home for your champion to return with triumph and glory? Well, that's what happened to the folks back home in the first year of Mojave Campaign. 7 years later, though? They would want them to come home. Heck, how about those who finds out their beloved ones has been dead? For recently? For 7 years? 7 years drained the NCR of their resources, men and goods. While New Vegas really did drained NCR's caps, it was the conflict with the Legion that drained even more, and also their men. Couple this with Hanlon's dialogue and action of trying to undermining the entire campaign, so that the NCR would just stop whatever they are doing and go back home..... there you go. War never changes.
And how they are going to do that? And why? It was obvious with the criticism builds-up against the war effort back at home, the rest of the NCR saw Kimball and Oliver in the wrong. When Mr. House kicks them out, it was the final nail in the coffin of the criticism towards the war effort, and boom! Oliver and Kimball takes the blame. Not Mr. House, not the Legion. Actually, all that you're talking about up until now (the NCR boycotting trades and tourism) has been resolved by Mr. House. Now that I talked with Mr. House more, why did he wanted to leave Kimball alive, is to make him the scapegoat of the losses in the Dam. If Kimball died, he would be seen as a martyr, and then when Mr. House kicked the NCR out the Mojave, then the embargoes will happen. But since supporting Mr. House can only be possible by leaving Kimball alive, all that scenario you brought up have only little, tiny possibility because it was Kimball who takes the blame, and Mr. House's deed of kicking the NCR out of the Mojave would be seen as an act of enough is enough, Kimball's incompetence prevent them from ever annexing New Vegas.
Well, Hanlon did criticized the methods, but he also disliked the war effort as evidenced by his dialogues and action. Coupled with those example I provided to you regarding their folks back west...
Well, how else could the Jamisons herd and cared those Brahmins?
Imagine this: Brahmins, lots of Brahmins gets herded in the skirts of Redding. This also attracts trades, and many more. Maybe I was too optimistic that the Jamisons would pay their employees as generous as Mr. House, but, again, how could they herd and work their Brahmins? We also have no idea how Redding's doing by the time of New Vegas, but under someone like Hanlon as their Senator, can't you see them prosper?[/QUOTE]
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