Fallout 3 pirated, videos spread

[aronsearle]

Oh man.

I've avoided watching in-game footage, but went onto youboob and watched some porn, after that i went to youtube and watched some fallout.

I randomly skipped the video, and landed on the "exiting the vault and seeing sunlight for the first time", the screen went white, then when his "eyesight" recovered, up popped XBOX ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED / ESCAPE!

Couldn't help but chuckle, immersion indeed.

 

[Jack The Knife]

You can get a tunnelsnake jacket without killing any of them.

Great. How?

But I will still kill Butch for his jacket. Just for the sake of killing him for his jacket.

My only hope is that they get so few sales they won't bother to make another sequel.
Maybe in the future even cut their losses by selling the IP.
That would be great. Unless sold to EA. That would not be great.
But that of course will never happen. Not while marketing towards the 'casual' gamer who buys just about anything.

 

[waldo]

Doesn't this immersion you speak of breaks when you see someone screaming at you with a blank look on their face?

It's diminished, but still greater than when playing an isometric game (speaking personally, of course).

Don't get me wrong, I was able to immerse myself in many iso titles released in the past and have a deep fondness for companies like Black Isle Studios, Bioware and Troika (I even beta tested Arcanum). However, I was able to reach such levels of immersion through ignoring the limitations and filling in blanks with my imagination. You could argue I was excusing the failings, but I'd argue right back I was focusing more on the fun than nitpicking.

Fast forward to today and I can still find enjoyment in video games that lack a certain amount of polish. I find it disgustingly hypocritical that you guys lash the hell out of what these videos bring to bare but still pure adoration on games that offer less than 0.05% of the immersive charm.

I'm comparing FO3 to its predecessors alone. Not half life 2, not Mass Effect (which, incidentally, Fallout 3 already looks 30x better than ME in my eyes).

ps: I should mention that I haven't watched all of the videos due to spoiler issues, but did watch the intro sequence with the birth and special book + loaded half of the birthday party scene (I turned it off after the Overseer said a few lines and I could see you were all blowing it out of proportion).

It's fun to hate, I get it. I loved Fallout 1 and 2 also. However, it really doesn't look that bad, especially compared to what else is on the market.

Are video games dying in quality? Yes.. but this is a natural function of increased budgets and emphasis on graphics at the expense of game play depth. I take it as read and move on (enjoying whatever comes my way for what it is, not what I hope it to be).

Honestly, I don't understand what you're getting at.

I'm pretty sure I speak for everyone here when I say that we all still enjoy games which lack a bit of polish. I don't think the original fallout games were polished especially.

But the game we're talking about is a huge budget game with masses of hype and promises of all the bells and whistles of a next-gen game. For a game of this stature, for a game supposedly all about the 'immershun', the facial animations are just atrocious.

 

[Brother None]

Great. How?

If you help Butch save his mommy from radroaches, or something.


Found him!

I'm saying that it didn't bother me then so why should it bother me now? I still play FO2 in spite of having encountered games with better graphics and I imagine you are too. Why is this such a foreign notion for you?

It isn't, if this were an indie game. It isn't, tho', this is an AAA title. I'm not going to hold Dragon Age up to the graphic standard of Baldur's Gate anymore than I'll hold up - say - the Lord of the Rings film's special effects to the standards of Willow. If Lord of the Rings looked, visually, like Willow did, everyone would point and laugh.

There's a point in saying something looked good "for its time". Fallout looked good for its time. And if someone did a niche or indie title these days that graphic level would also be fine. But Fallout 3 is an AAA title.

However, it allowed one to immerse themselves in a living and somewhat breathing world moreso than any cRPG in the past and still offered more statistical depth than most games being released these days (well, big budget games).

Sorry, sell it to someone who buys this PR crap. Oblivion's world wasn't living, breathing, stuff like the main city (Cyrodil) were laughably empty, NPCs were stupid, dialogue was uninteresting. It was immersive on the most basal, immediate level. It having a lot of stats running in the background is meaningless: if this is the future of RPGs I'd rather abandon RPGs wholesale.

Oblivion, with its broken AI, bad animations, unconvincingly designed world and stupid dialogue was about as immersive as My Left Foot. Gothic, Bloodlines or Pathologic did the immediate immersiveness much better, and games like Fallout or Torment was much more immersive in a higher hemisphere-way.

Oblivion wasn't the greatest RPG known to man but it certainly was the best released that year, and possibly in the years surrounding its release.

This is a fairly RPG-poor time when it comes to AAA titles. Only Obsidian and Europe are producing titles even worth looking at.

Being the best in a class of retards is hardly an accomplishment.

 

[mandrake776]

Oh man.

I've avoided watching in-game footage, but went onto youboob and watched some porn, after that i went to youtube and watched some fallout.

I randomly skipped the video, and landed on the "exiting the vault and seeing sunlight for the first time", the screen went white, then when his "eyesight" recovered, up popped XBOX ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED / ESCAPE!

Couldn't help but chuckle, immersion indeed.

You know they couldn't do anything about that, right?

 

[generalissimofurioso]

Microsoft sucks for having the achievement system set up like they do.

DING You got a little farther, keep playing to extend your dickhat.

 

[Amer]

BTW, someone asked if you can change your companions behavior.Well, you can: the menus are the same as in FO1,2. The only nice thing i saw while watching the broadcast.

 

[Oakraven]

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Maybe in the future even cut their losses by selling the IP.
That would be great. Unless sold to EA. That would not be great.
But that of course will never happen. Not while marketing towards the 'casual' gamer who buys just about anything.

Odds are that if it crashed and burned then noone will want the IP.

To be honest I cant see why they bothered to buy it in the first place, just make a Post Apocoliptic game where you start off in a Fallout shelter. it would have saved them the 10 to 15 million they payed Interplay for it.

 

[waldo]

Microsoft sucks for having the achievement system set up like they do.

DING You got a little farther, keep playing to extend your dickhat.

To be fair, you can turn off the acheivement notifications, at least on the 360 anyway.

 

[aronsearle]

Oh man.

I've avoided watching in-game footage, but went onto youboob and watched some porn, after that i went to youtube and watched some fallout.

I randomly skipped the video, and landed on the "exiting the vault and seeing sunlight for the first time", the screen went white, then when his "eyesight" recovered, up popped XBOX ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED / ESCAPE!

Couldn't help but chuckle, immersion indeed.

You know they couldn't do anything about that, right?

So Microsoft forced them to make that particular achievement, pop up at that particular time?

There are plenty of ways of sticking these useless things in without throwing them in you're face.

 

[Arash]

I bet Fallout 3 walkthrough will come out before its release.

 

[generalissimofurioso]

To be fair, you can turn off the acheivement notifications, at least on the 360 anyway.

I know.

But I still hate how obtrusive the whole system is in the first place.

That and I have been struck by the Red Ring of Death, so I'm noticeably angry right now.

 

[Jack The Knife]

If you help Butch save his mommy from radroaches, or something.

Guess his mommy won't make it either.

Found him!

Dammit! I was gonna do that. I just... forgot to.


Edit:

Odds are that if it crashed and burned then noone will want the IP.

I'm not sure if thats really a bad thing...

 

[waldo]

To be fair, you can turn off the acheivement notifications, at least on the 360 anyway.

I know.

But I still hate how obtrusive the whole system is in the first place.

That and I have been struck by the Red Ring of Death, so I'm noticeably angry right now.

Fair enough

Personally, I like the achievement system. I'm not someone who's all about their gamerscore but I do like the fact that I've gotten a lot more mileage out of some of my games, simply because some of the acheivements are fun to get or require playing the game in a different way.

Oh and yes, you've all found me (it was my nickname in school)

 

[Texas Renegade]

It looks like they are locking down the videos. The only ones I am currently finding are friend only private videos.

May just be missing them though.

 

[Anarchosyn]

Honestly, I don't understand what you're getting at.

I'm pretty sure I speak for everyone here when I say that we all still enjoy games which lack a bit of polish. I don't think the original fallout games were polished especially.

But the game we're talking about is a huge budget game with masses of hype and promises of all the bells and whistles of a next-gen game. For a game of this stature, for a game supposedly all about the 'immershun', the facial animations are just atrocious.

That's our impasse, I see no reason to judge a game based on its budget. I see where your logic stems from, but if I could give this a pass and enjoy it from a smaller developer then that must mean its really not a legitimate block to finding enjoyment in the title.

Either way, the animations are better than Oblivion and that speaks to improvement.

Perhaps it's an age thing - I grew up playing RPGs with block like sprites and static worlds. I enjoyed those so why can't I enjoy this?

 

[Arash]

It looks like they are locking down the videos. The only ones I am currently finding are friend only private videos.

May just be missing them though.

I wouldn't be surprised, afterall its illegal to post some previews from a stolen game.

So, is there a word on anyone trying to "finish" the game already?

thou thats quite unlikely...

 

[Brother None]

I was watching someone playing it and he already got the powered armor and a minigun and was running happily around the environs of Rivet City.

Expect people to have finished it tomorrow or the day after at the latest, and main storyline spoilers to abound soon after

 

[Anarchosyn]

However, it allowed one to immerse themselves in a living and somewhat breathing world moreso than any cRPG in the past and still offered more statistical depth than most games being released these days (well, big budget games).

Sorry, sell it to someone who buys this PR crap. Oblivion's world wasn't living, breathing, stuff like the main city (Cyrodil) were laughably empty, NPCs were stupid, dialogue was uninteresting.

Care to name another RPG that put you in a non-linear world were people went about their business and would occasionally come out of the blue to give you missions? Most of the game felt like you were walking in a sea of dead mannequins, but some of the presentation was done extremely well (Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood quest lines, specifically speaking).

I didn't say it was the best execution of the concept, but definitely better than what came before it. Baldur's Gate, Planescape, Fallout (ect).. none of them had living worlds. Better games, by far, but the worlds were far more static.

I dare.. no.. challenge you to name 3 titles that eclipsed Oblivion in this respect (again, that respect being the dynamic world were people could be encountered between cities going about their business or come out of the woodwork to find you).

 

[Pope Viper]

Straight main quest, huh? I'd like to know if it's the 20 hrs they babbled about, or what.